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re: Jefferson Davis monument supporters and protesters in NOLA

Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Depends on where I am. And who I'm with



I picture you as the white bf wanna be gangster off of Gran Torino. The guy at the beginning of this video:

LINK
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79627 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:25 pm to
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Yes, they DO plan to change the name of the street. Norman Francis avenue is the one Mitch and his peeps want.


There's another shitstorm waiting to happen, then. Again, from business owners all along Jeff Davis.
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2400 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:31 pm to
Beauregard is the one I really don't want to see come down. Not only was he perhaps the finest military man to come out of the New Orleans area, he spear-headed the ill-fated unification movement. He recognized and voiced aloud that whites and blacks have the same goals and should work together to make this a better country.

My mother, who is about as liberal as I know personally, has an affinity to the legacy and monument to Beauregard.

On a slightly different note...
I drove by his statue this morning, and saw the remnants of vandalism. That monument (along with Lee Circle) are on the National Registry of Historic Places. Would there be some sort of stiffer fine/punishment for defacing one of these sites?

And on another slightly different note.....
I read today that sites on the National Registry of Historic Places receive tax incentives for maintaining those properties. Does that mean that merely the fact of not having those monuments there anymore would result in higher costs to the city?

Would that also mean that whoever owns the mystery warehouse where those two monuments are to be stored will also receive tax breaks?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:17 pm to
Not usually, when a street name is changed the post office and the parcel services use both names for a long while.

Historically streets have been changed in the city after being known as one thing for a long time. Jeff Davis was Hagan avenue and Lee Circle was long Tivoli circle and MLK used to be Melpomene ave.






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Former Xavier University president Norman Francis, pictured in 2014. In addition to calling for the removal of four Confederate monuments in the city, New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu on Thursday (July 9) said the City Council should abolish Jefferson Davis Parkway and rename it Norman C. Francis Parkway.(Photo by Chris Granger, Nola.com | The Times-Picayune) (Chris Granger)
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:18 pm to
I've been saying that streets are next.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5095 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:21 pm to
I guess Beauregard Town in Baton Rouge will soon be on the list.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:23 pm to
I think the next push after that will be to either take away historical designations for plantations, have them removed, or force them to prominently feature apologetic slave displays.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:23 pm to
Just find another less racist Beauregard to name it after. Worked for Chalmette.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:24 pm to
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think the next push after that will be to either take away historical designations for plantations, have them removed, or force them to prominently feature apologetic slave displays.



Goodbye Treme and Marigny
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28336 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:27 pm to
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MLK


Let's get rid of this street name, his womanizing and philandering offends me.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Let's get rid of this street name, his womanizing and philandering offends me.


All lies perpetrated by white men. Jesus aspired to be like MLK.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69059 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:37 pm to
well then we have to change the $100 bill then too.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21318 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:40 pm to
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Anybody else find it ironic that the SJW white guy is protesting a "racist" monument and yelling at a Confederate flag wearing black guy there in support of leaving the monument in place?


Gotta love the irony of black men protecting a statue of the Confederate President...from a white mayor.

It makes me think of this line from the movie JFK. LINK
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28336 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:53 pm to
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well then we have to change the $100 bill then too


Change it all.......everything's offensive!
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:57 pm to
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drove by his statue this morning, and saw the remnants of vandalism. That monument (along with Lee Circle) are on the National Registry of Historic Places. Would there be some sort of stiffer fine/punishment for defacing one of these sites? 

The mayor doesn't care. The police and mayor have gotten video proof in the past.
The vandalism last night was shown live on I think WDSU's(can't remember but I saw it live) FB page
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28336 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:58 pm to
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The vandalism last night was shown live on I think WDSU's


New Orleans where the people in charge aid and abet property crimes
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