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re: It's getting tough to defend police. Threatning to take kid at traffic stop

Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:15 pm to
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Just as good


That is good to hear. Has not always been my experience.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:19 pm to
It may take longer depending on some things. If you are in a hurry, let the officer know you have a state issued id. Moves things along.
Posted by Yung_Humma
Member since Oct 2013
834 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:20 pm to
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Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:28 pm to
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This is what I'm talking about. LSU/college aged students are going to be pulled over at random just to try to catch someone drinking and driving.


that is by design, it provides cover for us older alums to escape after leaving the game at half time
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:33 pm to
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TeddyPadillac



Apparently you've never been profiled by a policeman. Congrats! I used to close late nights at Canes, and would be driving home around 2-4 AM. I would CONSTANTLY be pulled over and have to undergo drinking tests. They would never tell me why I was being pulled over, and I never got a ticket. I also was asked once if they could search my car, to which I replied no, and the idiot cop actually tried to argue that disagreeing to a search is probable cause TO search.

Police are not your friends.


I've been pulled over more times than you have.
I've been profiled before and treated with disrespect by officers.
These are 3 things i heard from cops when i decided to stop arguing and just shut up and get it over with.
"You were trying to evade me" b/c i got off on an exit and pulled over immediately, followed by, "quit driving with your radio so loud". my radio didnt' work. I was in a car owned by my cousin who was overseas with bama plates. He assumed i was a drug smuggler. I understand his suspicions and provided the info necessary for him to leave me alone. He pulled me over for a bull shite reason and gave me bull shite questions. I do realize that profiling cars with single occupants like i was, can lead to drug busts. I'd rather that then them not pulling over anyone.

"you were speeding" i said i saw it went from 55 to 45 and i slowed down accordingly, and he said the classic "it's a school zone". It was sunday He later asked to search my car (car was full of shite b/c i was coming back from Grand Isle) and questioned me about a pocket knife like an idiot. I knew what he was trying to do and i just sat there and ignored his baits.

And i got asked to have my car searched at 2AM dressed like payne stewart, explaining to him i was dressed that way b/c i wanted to look like an idiot for the putt putt golf date i had that night. I asked why i needed to get my car searched, he gave some stupid excuse, that i'm sure was illegal of him to do, i said whatever b/c i didn't want to be late getting home and deal with my dad and knew there was nothign in my car. Wasn't doing anything wrong that night and didn't get a ticket.

All incidents i got pulled over b/c i was driving a suspicious looking car and being young. I reported all 3 incidents to the proper police station after they happened. I wasn't issued a ticket for any of those 3.

all of those incidents could have escalated if i had acted like the person in the video, and like many of you. I was 22, 20 and 18 respectively in those incidents. Just recently got a speeding ticket and it was the first time i had been pulled over in 8 years. I look like a normal adult driving a normal car now.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:39 pm to
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all of those incidents could have escalated if i had acted like the person in the video,
no. All of those incidences wouldn't have happened like that had you been black like the guy in the video.
That's what we're talking about. That's what the dude in the video is so upset about.
He knows,we know,everyone but you knows had he been white chances are they never get pulled over,chances are even if pulled over a quick check of his womans license and they would had been on their way.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:41 pm to
They have no right to stop you without a predicate offense.

Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10045 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:42 pm to
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TeddyPadillac

You sound pathetically servile to authority figures.

I get your points about the attitude and blatantly charged altercation, but there is a way to tell a cop to go frick himself, remaining calm while ensuring he understands that you know your rights. Asking him to communicate the impetus for his desire to search you and your effects, or even to investigate you beyond the traffic violation.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:47 pm to
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I do realize that profiling cars with single occupants like i was, can lead to drug busts. I'd rather that then them not pulling over anyone.


wow, drug busts? Really, you care that much about drug busts that you are willing to toss the 4th amendment?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:57 pm to
So only black people get pulled over b/c of profiling?
All three instances i gave, i was being profiled.

I'm sure you'll go crazy on this one, but what % of people like the guy in the video have been arrested before?
He was being profiled as a black male. It sucks for the law abiding black guys. and it's illegal. Yet had he just shown his id and acted respectful, he would have been on his way.
certain Muslims get profile at airports. it sucks for the good ones.


I just think you should argue and deal with cops actions after your interaction with them, and with the proper departments. Nothing positive comes from standing up to a cop when he pulls you over. Think if everyone did that. The bad cops would have terrible reviews and their boss would be forced to get them off the street eventually, if the boss is worth a shite, the good cops would continue to be good cops.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:02 pm to
I honestly don't think you want to get it.
Do you know me as a poster? If you did,like many others here do,you would also know that defending this guy like i am is way out of my character so it must be completely blatant for me to do so.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:11 pm to
Those cops should have a jagged piece of rebar shoved up their asses before being lined up in front of a wall and executed for their crimes.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:18 pm to
i'm not defending the cop, but i'm not sticking up for the guy in the video. He had a right to do what he did, and the cop was wrong.
Just don't see the point in doing what he did.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112312 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:52 pm to
wow. that kids college just got paid for by the police department

thats the deffinition of profiling.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:19 pm to
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If he had nothing to hide get out the damn car, he is making it a lot worse for himself. Get out the car and keep recording.
I'd be interested to see where you'd draw the line on that?

Would you then allow the cops to search your home for no reason, just because you have nothing to hide?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56466 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:45 pm to
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wow. that kids college just got paid for by the police department

thats the deffinition of profiling.



I doubt he'll see a dime.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1694 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:57 am to
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I just read this story out of Georgia. Grandfather was killed by swat after meth head that stole his car told police the meth they found him with belonged to the owner of the car he stole. That's fricked up.


This needs it's own thread. Sorry arse pigs.

LINK

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35478 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:45 am to
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if you get pulled over, there is a reason. Maybe you or the vehicle you are in match the description of someone they are looking for. They aren't going to volunteer that info right out and have you run.

With all due respect, how the frick did your ilk even end up in this country? You're killing your forefathers, Larry.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:18 am to
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hell i know people who have been pulled over because they were driving a vehicle that matches a stolen one. No the cops are not going to come out and tell you that is why you were pulled over. BUT if you comply they get their answers and find you that it was a mistaken vehicle, which is much easier when the person pulled over is just honest and answers SIMPLE questions. NOT get defensive from the start.
You're a fricking moron
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35478 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:46 am to
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hilarious.
comparing our cops to Nazi's.

keep watching world star hip hop and thinking our gov't is evil. Sounds like a fun way to live.

If you want you can send over some sort of patch for me to wear so i can be identified to be sent to my concentration camp when the time arrives.

You don't need a patch. You'd hop on the train on your own.
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