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re: Is the whole “veterans need special treatment” overblown?

Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:48 am to
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1169 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:48 am to
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still qualified for over 90% disability while also being allowed to work a full-time job. Look up what that pays each month for life with a spouse and children.


I know someone I served with who claimed PTSD(neither one of us have ever been deployed) and he's getting an extra $900/month and can work full time.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18869 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:50 am to
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quote:
an Aggie


Opinion invalidated


I hope you are joking. All fun to poke each other in sports but when united for team America, Aggies rank amongst the best.
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1169 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:54 am to
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And can quit at any time without facing jail time.


And a Probationary Police Officer in Chicago starts off at $54K per year.
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5297 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:56 am to
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what was the point then?


To show that active duty military members are not compensated like any other job. They are severely underpaid. Especially in the first 4-6 years.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1744 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:56 am to
I come from a military family and am a combat vet myself as is my brother and parents. I joined because I fricked off in college and had no other choices. If it weren't for my vet disability plates, you wouldn’t know that I served. I dislike being thanked for my service because despite being deployed, I mostly drank and banged whores. I don’t need recognition at a ball game or a discount at a business.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
872 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:58 am to
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This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25744 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:59 am to
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yeah, well you werent paid by the hour. you were paid a salary, and you knew what that salary was when you signed up.


The biggest difference is in the civilian world you can drag up and go down the road where they are paying $1 more per diem if you don't like the working conditions.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:59 am to
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Aggies rank amongst the best.


Easy, Tiger. He’s not going to frick you.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4756 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:01 pm to
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To show that active duty military members are not compensated like any other job. They are severely underpaid. Especially in the first 4-6 years.

lol ok. you have a free room, free food, issued uniforms, free healthcare, and 30 paid days of leave a year, all with virtually no barriers to entry assuming you have finished high school and meet the physical requirements. essentially ZERO cost of living - phone, internet, maybe a vehicle is all you really even need to spend your own money on.

how much do YOU think a first term enlistee should get paid?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:01 pm to
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I mostly drank and banged whores


OPSEC, bro. Quit giving away our secrets
Posted by tterrific
Member since Sep 2022
649 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:02 pm to
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how many troops do you hear about getting out of combat and going to jail?


None, because the media doesnt report on military justice and because people in jail don't run to the media.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11466 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:02 pm to
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And can quit at any time without facing jail time.

Yep. Funny, I don't recall seeing a shitload of armless and legless former cops, or hearing about cops having to spend 9 months to a year away from their wife and kids.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4756 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:02 pm to
i mean, i might
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:02 pm to
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To show that active duty military members are not compensated like any other job. They are severely underpaid. Especially in the first 4-6 years


Now do a person paid 10 dollars an hour that doesn't get free room and board and healthcare that is also paying taxes to those people
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4756 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:03 pm to
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None, because the media doesnt report on military justice and because people in jail don't run to the media.

well i can tell you that the answer is virtually zero.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:04 pm to
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Yep. Funny, I don't recall seeing a shitload of armless and legless former cops, or hearing about cops having to spend 9 months to a year away from their wife and kids.


That is an extremely low number of vets.

You don't lose your legs looking at a screen in Kansas
Posted by tterrific
Member since Sep 2022
649 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:05 pm to
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well i can tell you that the answer is virtually zero.


Given the lack of combat, right now you are likely correct.

Get back to me when the US starts sending loads of troops overseas again.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4756 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:07 pm to
then find me some verified stories from the GWOT era of guys refusing to go into combat and getting sent to jail

i know of plenty guys that refused to deploy or refused to go into combat, and not a single one that went to jail
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4756 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:07 pm to
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That is an extremely low number of vets.

You don't lose your legs looking at a screen in Kansas

or looking at screens in Iraq and Afghanistan for that matter. the vast majority of troops who deployed into combat zones never even faced a life or death situation.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2138 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:11 pm to
Yes. I am an fully capable (physically) veteran and don't even use veterans discounts or anything else.

I did it because I felt that serving was the right thing for me. It was an honor and a sacrifice and I'm not going to cheapen it by turning my veteran status into a ploy to get discounts and closer parking.

I did it because it was the right thing for me, nothing more.
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