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I have some questions I'd like to ask catholics (very long)

Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:34 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:34 pm
Let me preface this thread by saying I love you all. If you're familiar with my posting history, I am a man of faith who makes a lot of mistakes daily. I am not here to judge or criticize anyone. However, I don't have any catholic friends, and I'm sure some people here can answer some of my questions.

I admit I am very ignorant of catholic.....traditions. A few things I've heard that catholics do perplex me though.

For starters, the pope. It is my understanding that the pope is supposedly taking all the prayers of all catholics to deliver them to God. Surely catholics don't think he is anything other than a filthy sinner, just like me. Right? Surely catholics don't think they need him to pray to God for them, do they?

Speaking of having your prayers go to a middle man.... Or woman... What is the deal with praying to Mary? She is nothing more than the vessel God used to bring Jesus into this world. Is there any biblical reference at all to Jesus saying to pray to his mom?

Now I know the angel greeted her with "Hail Mary", however if you are honest with yourself, hail was a greeting back then. It just meant "Hi Mary" in my opinion. The way some people use it in prayer in modern times certainly doesn't mean "Hi".

Now what about the part where it is said that Mary was favored among all women? Well that part is obviously true. God was obviously pleased with Mary, to choose to use her as the vessel to deliver the messiah into the world. God was pleased with Abraham too, but no one is praying to Abraham (I hope).

Third, punishment. It is my understanding that if you sin as a child, the priest will command you to say 10 Hail Marys or something along those lines. The gospel however tells us that we cannot "earn" our way into heaven, that we can only please God through faith. We cannot atone for our sins any more than we could make the moon turn into cheese. Jesus has paid for our sins, we don't have to pay more.

And lastly, baptism. It is my understanding that all catholic children are baptized as infants. I was taught that baptism was symbolic of a rebirth into Christ, and is the decision of the individual, not the parent.

I will repeat, I'm a filthy sinner. I am lost without my Lord and savior. I just can't help but see a relation between the Pharisees and my understanding of Catholics. What am I missing?
Posted by AbitaFan08
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:35 pm to
...in?
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:36 pm to
Heathen
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:36 pm to
What about all the fricking kids? Are these people masochists?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:36 pm to
:inb4religionboard:
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:36 pm to
This thread should last awhile.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:37 pm to
I thought that these threads were frowned upon...

But I say Let Her Rip!
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:37 pm to
On mobile. Not sure if trolling.

You're understanding is way off in most cases.
Posted by AHouseDivided
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:37 pm to
Troll
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by member12
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

I am not here to judge or criticize anyone


Not true.
Posted by mt1
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:37 pm to
1st page?
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:37 pm to
Aaaaaaaand here we go.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:38 pm to
those are all good questions, I'm sorry you haven't gotten any real answers.

I'm not catholic, so like you there are aspects of that religion that I find don't make any sense. But to each his own.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:38 pm to
This is why we can't have nice things..
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:38 pm to
OP, I send me your address to SwaggerCopterTD @ gmail. I will send you a book on all of these questions if you are truly interested. Fair warning though. I personally know someone who became Catholic after reading it.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

It is my understanding that the pope is supposedly taking all the prayers of all catholics to deliver them to God.


This is false, the pope sends the prayers to Paul who then scans the prayers in and sends them up for processing. The thing is a lot of prayers are just shitty and not really thought out, so if there's not some sort of vetting process then the good lord will be inundated with bullshite prayers that really don't deserve his attention. A good tip, if you want your prayer heard by God, mark it "urgent".
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:39 pm to
Every time I have some idea that Protestants may be on to something, an ignorant one comes along and corrects those notions.

This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

punishment. It is my understanding that if you sin as a child, the priest will command you to say 10 Hail Marys or something along those lines.


quote:

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me.

Emo Philips

Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:40 pm to
I most certainly am not trolling. It's fully possible and maybe even probable that I'm misinformed. Please fill me in.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34988 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

This is false, the pope sends the prayers to Paul who then scans the prayers in and sends them up for processing. The thing is a lot of prayers are just shitty and not really thought out, so if there's not some sort of vetting process then the good lord will be inundated with bullshite prayers that really don't deserve his attention. A good tip, if you want your prayer heard by God, mark it "urgent".


This is the kind of useful knowledge they don't teach in Sunday School anymore.
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