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re: Huge Fight at Fred's...UPDATE: Arrest made
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:15 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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During their investigation, officers were able to retrieve surveillance video from Fred’s bar. The camera inside the outdoor tent area of Fred’s bar showed a group of guys talking to two other guys. Arresting documents say, “During the conversation, Devin Repath walks behind several of his friends and punches (redacted name) in the head. That person then falls to the ground. The groups are separated.” A little while later, three guys are seen walking around with Matthew Marsiglia, the suspect arrested in connection to Repath’s death. Arresting documents continue to say, “Repath is then seen backing out of the bar while exchanging words with (Redacted name) and Marsiglia. Repath backs up into the parking lot and about halfway into the parking lot, Repath stops and attempts to hit Marsiglia. Marsiglia ducks and is not hit. Repath then backs up several steps and Marsiglia then takes both hands and shoves Repath by the shoulders causing Repath to fall and strike his head on the parking lot pavement.” That’s when Repath’s friends tried to help him and flagged down the officer working extra duty. It’s unclear at this time if any other arrests are pending. BRPD continues its investigation into the incident.
Last comment, all the article said is Repath stops (moving backwards I assume) and attempts to hit MM. There is a lot we don't know here with lots of possible outcomes.
If MM is still moving towards Repath in an aggressive manor when Repath stops to swing (MM ducks, but if he close enough to duck that could mean he is moving towards Repath). If so that swing that can be determined an act of self-defense.
On the other hand if MM and his friends stop moving towards Repath and Repath stops and lunges at them that changes the situation. I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle which doesn't really help either side.
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:16 pm to Lester Earl
Lester is here. The resident bar fighting expert.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:17 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Knuckles were checked
Lives were wrecked
Charges were filed
The OT is riled
Fred's is done
No more fun
The verdict is out
What will it be?
I went to Fred's once
Could've been me
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:17 pm to lsupride87
I didn't read the affidavit or watch the video but Marsig does not want this to go to a jury trial. I served on a jury this past summer in which 4 folks wanted to completely ignore the facts and make a decision based on emotions. We eventually got one to swap so we could render a verdict but it was a pain in the arse. If the prosecution does a good job of making the jury feel sorry for the kids/mom they may get the jury to find him guilty regardless of the facts.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:18 pm to Obtuse1
quote:Does the initial sucker punch in the back of the head committed by Repath count as continuance here or whatever it’s called?
Obtuse1
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:19 pm to redneck
Juries are a rodeo but MM at least has Louisiana requiring unanimous verdicts now. Assuming the initial sucker punch by Repath being allowed in, I feel confident thinking MM would be fine
If the sucker punch can’t be included, and it’s just the second punch /backing up back and forth I would think there is a chance, still small, but chance he is convicted
If the sucker punch can’t be included, and it’s just the second punch /backing up back and forth I would think there is a chance, still small, but chance he is convicted
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:31 pm to Lester Earl
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In this case it seems like Repath wanted hands that night. Opposite of the portrayal of an innocent dad caught up in a brawl"
Yeah, we all know lawyers will try to spin everything but, from what we know, this seems like a classic case of FAFO or Don't Start No Shyte Wont Be No Shyte. And though both were of legal age, the mind / maturity of a 26 year old to avoid these situations is far greater than that of a 21 year old. MF couldn't fight or handle his booze.
In this case it seems like Repath wanted hands that night. Opposite of the portrayal of an innocent dad caught up in a brawl"
Yeah, we all know lawyers will try to spin everything but, from what we know, this seems like a classic case of FAFO or Don't Start No Shyte Wont Be No Shyte. And though both were of legal age, the mind / maturity of a 26 year old to avoid these situations is far greater than that of a 21 year old. MF couldn't fight or handle his booze.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:37 pm to lsupride87
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If the sucker punch can’t be included, and it’s just the second punch /backing up back and forth I would think there is a chance, still small, but chance he is convicted
They would have to allow the initial punch in, otherwise, how would they explain why Repath would be trying to get away from MM? It would make zero sense. Regardless, even if it's left out, if someone swings on you, and then you only push them, unless you are pushing them off of a bridge, I don't think he should even have to go to trial.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:39 pm to fareplay
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In an alternate universe the kid is black and OT goes berserk saying death penalty
We don’t need an alternate universe to find instances of blacks killing whites. Don’t be an idiot.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:43 pm to DRock88
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If I'm being honest, who is at fault really matters none to me. It's just a crappy situation that plays out differently every weekend at a college bar somewhere. This one just happened to end really badly.
Sounds like the guy's death was nothing but a freak occurrence of a drunk guy falling back and hitting his head on the pavement, that happened to coincide with getting shoved.
I can't envision a situation where the guy who pushed him gets convicted of murder, if the dude he pushed had just swung at him prior. I'll be shocked if there are even charges brought here.
It's not really FAFO, except to the extent that a 26 year old married dude with kids should never be in a situation where he's taking swings at college kids in a college bar. Otherwise, it's just a very sad deal all around. You really have to feel as bad for the Marsaglia kid, as anyone here.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
the original sucker punch was not on MM
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:46 pm to Obtuse1
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Matt wearing some Khol's discount Izod, at least Garrett knew how to properly rep SELA as a preppy killer.
I think Marsiglia grabbed that shirt on the way to turn himself in, in case the shirt wasn't returned. That's pretty smart.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:50 pm to lsupride87
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Does the initial sucker punch in the back of the head committed by Repath count as continuance here or whatever it’s called?
I don't want to get into the weeds on this because I am not licensed in LA and not a criminal lawyer. However, as I have said the timeline and events between the initial punch and the blow that resulted in death are incredibly important. The last facts posted (AFAIK still uncited) imply that there was some period of time where the "fight" was not ongoing and Matt and his crew seemed to have decided to go finish the matter. The time period and the chain them down/backing them down may have indeed shifted the right of self defense/defense of others to Repath. The video and witness statements about that period of time are incredibly salient and the whole case turns on facts that we simply don't have beyond inference.
Using my gut to fill in the blanks along with the specific phrases the police used in the report (as reported by WNRZ) suggests to me Matt and his crew screwed up the courage to go finish the matter and hunted them down in the bar. All this is simply a guess. We simply don't have enough substantiated facts to apply law to the final blow. Now if we had the video and all the witness statements we could probably do a lot better.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:51 pm to Y.A. Tittle
It’s a terrible tragedy. But the victim started it apparently. I hope he gets off on the manslaughter charge.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:55 pm to Obtuse1
If there was substantial time, why would the arresting report not make sure to cite that? Usually they only leave out important info like that if it isn’t helpful for the arrest, correct?
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:58 pm to jcaz
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During their investigation, officers were able to retrieve surveillance video from Fred’s bar. The camera inside the outdoor tent area of Fred’s bar showed a group of guys talking to two other guys. Arresting documents say, “During the conversation, Devin Repath walks behind several of his friends and punches (redacted name) in the head. That person then falls to the ground. The groups are separated.” A little while later, three guys are seen walking around with Matthew Marsiglia, the suspect arrested in connection to Repath’s death. Arresting documents continue to say, “Repath is then seen backing out of the bar while exchanging words with (Redacted name) and Marsiglia. Repath backs up into the parking lot and about halfway into the parking lot, Repath stops and attempts to hit Marsiglia. Marsiglia ducks and is not hit. Repath then backs up several steps and Marsiglia then takes both hands and shoves Repath by the shoulders causing Repath to fall and strike his head on the parking lot pavement.” That’s when Repath’s friends tried to help him and flagged down the officer working extra duty. It’s unclear at this time if any other arrests are pending. BRPD continues its investigation into the incident.
This really changes my outlook on the events. I wouldn't be surprised if a grand jury doesn't moves forward with this, if this is how it works. Let them fight it out in civil courts but don't waste tax dollars on this.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:03 pm to broadhead
That skinny little frat star killed a grown man? Jesus Christ.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:08 pm to Obtuse1
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Investigators believe Marsiglia punched Devin Repath one time while in the parking lot of Fred’s Bar & Grill on March 23, 2024
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:11 pm to Falco
Where's the arse clown who said just because someone died doesn't mean a crime was committed? He would make a good judge 
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:31 pm to Salamanca
quote:Right here
Where's the arse clown who said just because someone died doesn't mean a crime was committed? He would make a good judge
Tell me how that statement above is incorrect. Are you saying every homicide is a crime?
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