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re: Huge Fight at Fred's...UPDATE: Arrest made
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:53 pm to choupiquesushi
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:53 pm to choupiquesushi
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The problem for MM is if repath was backing up and disengaging, you’re not defending at that point. Especially since DR did not strike MM
Don't tell this to pride, HE THINKS HE IS A LAWYER!!!!
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:53 pm to tketaco
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Then 86 Girl Casts Pheonix Down to put him back in the fight.
:rollsdice:
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:55 pm to GooDat
quote:Im not a lawyer. But backing up doesn’t mean shite when you then stop, and go forward and swing first, AGAIN
Don't tell this to pride, HE THINKS HE IS A LAWYER!!!!
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:56 pm to NOLALGD
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No stake in this, but a good DA will argue after the initial act MM and his group became the aggressors by continuing to purse Repath (who was backing away and no longer a threat) as he was leaving the venue and backing away for at least 150 ft (very conservative estimate of half the parking lot). That's definitely enough for probable cause for an arrest, but agree prosecution will be tough. Either way horrible for all involved.
perfectly said in legal terms, but pride can't grasp this for some reason
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:58 pm to GooDat
quote:Um, yeh what he said was perfect.
perfectly said in legal terms, but pride can't grasp this for some reason
quote:That has been my entire point. I don’t see how prosecution wins this
but agree prosecution will be tough.
You have repath punching someone in the back of the head
You also have repath swinging first at MM outside the bar
The only aggressive act you can say of MM is he “was walking out the bar” in Repaths direction
Good luck to the state proving beyond all reasonable doubt self defense of simply pushing repath doesn’t exist to all jurors
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:03 pm to GooDat
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backing away for at least 150 ft (very conservative estimate of half the parking lot
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backing up into the parking lot and about halfway into the parking lot
We need to check the tape here but I think 150ft is way overestimating. Sounds like he is more between the door/exit and the lot, where people would wait to get in/check IDs. I believe it is a tent night so that line is pretty blurred
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:06 pm to GooDat
I'm sure Repath's lawyer will try to keep the footage of him sneaking a guy away from the court. It had nothing to do with Marsiglia.
If the video truly shows Repath backing up then swinging then backing up again, it's going to get murky. Marsiglia will seem the aggressor. If he had just let Repath leave, like it appears Repath was trying to do if he was backing up, none of this happens. I'm sure Repath's friends will say that they were trying to get him out of there.
Tough situation for all involved.
If the video truly shows Repath backing up then swinging then backing up again, it's going to get murky. Marsiglia will seem the aggressor. If he had just let Repath leave, like it appears Repath was trying to do if he was backing up, none of this happens. I'm sure Repath's friends will say that they were trying to get him out of there.
Tough situation for all involved.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:09 pm to DRock88
Verbal words continued after he punched someone in the head. I would think think the continuation of events make that first punch relevant. I’ll let an attorney chime in there.
The biggest thing for me is only one person threw punches, Repath. Only one person ever started physical encounters, Repath (missing with your punch to me still counts as starting the physical event)
The biggest thing for me is only one person threw punches, Repath. Only one person ever started physical encounters, Repath (missing with your punch to me still counts as starting the physical event)
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:10 pm to lsupride87
For sure. I'm definitely not trying to be a lawyer. More so just trying to muddy the waters even more.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:15 pm to DRock88
Knuckles were checked
Lives were wrecked
Charges were filed
The OT is riled
Fred's is done
No more fun
The verdict is out
What will it be?
I went to Fred's once
Could've been me
Lives were wrecked
Charges were filed
The OT is riled
Fred's is done
No more fun
The verdict is out
What will it be?
I went to Fred's once
Could've been me
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:27 pm to lsupride87
quote:If repath was backing up what exactly is he protecting himself from? One has the right of self defense but not retaliation - was repath backing up because he was done or was he backing up to charge again?
“Yeh, even though repath punched your group in the back of the head, it’s now your responsibility to complete avoid him. Oh, and even if he swings at you again, you can’t protect yourself because remember I said the onus is on you to make sure you aren’t close enough to him tk where he loses his cool again”
It seems ridiculous to me
The reason I kept saying the one punch theory didn't make sense was because everyone that I know that knew him said repath was a pretty rugged dude and they would hate to run into whomever could take him down with one punch... Curious to see what his BAC was.
If you walked up to me and punched me in the face and then ran off - do I have the legal right to chase you down and retaliate?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:29 pm to lsupride87
quote:He only swung once at MM and he was backing up when he was pushed - that fact is indeed relevant.
Im not a lawyer. But backing up doesn’t mean shite when you then stop, and go forward and swing first, AGAIN
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:31 pm to DRock88
Repath guy is dead. He doesn’t have or will have any use for a lawyer.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:32 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:He got taken out with one push. I would imagine he was hammered. And being described as a rugged dude kinda makes sense when you hear the story now
The reason I kept saying the one punch theory didn't make sense was because everyone that I know that knew him said repath was a pretty rugged dude and they would hate to run into whomever could take him down with one punch
quote:No. but once again MM did nothing physical at all until he was swing at by Repath. Walking in someone’s direction doesn’t take away your future self defense claims. For gods sake Trayvon martin was followed for 100s of feet by Zimmerman before the altercation took place
If you walked up to me and punched me in the face and then ran off - do I have the legal right to chase you down and retaliate?
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:32 pm to choupiquesushi
Despite him looking like a measly frat boy, I doubt this was Marsiglia's first rodeo.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:34 pm to Jdiggy
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Repath guy is dead.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:34 pm to LaBR4
quote:what I heard from someone that really wasn't paying attention to it until they it escalated but..... words were exchanged FU's and such then a push and a shove and someone tried to separate them and a punch was thrown and bouncers bounced
Has it been rumored how the two groups started aruging in the first place? Considering somebody did die, just wondering how it all actually started?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:34 pm to DRock88
quote:I mean the fact that he didn’t even punch repath after being swung at doesn’t make him sound like much of a brawler
Despite him looking like a measly frat boy, I doubt this was Marsiglia's first rodeo.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:34 pm to Jdiggy
What planet are you on? His family has a civil claim for wrongful death.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:38 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:He wasn’t backing up when he was pushed. He was pushed after throwing a punch is how it is stated
he was backing up when he was pushed - that fact is indeed relevant.
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