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re: how can we improve our educational system?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:48 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:48 pm to GrammarKnotsi
I fear that no system can educate some of these BR kids. I look at the public schools as no more than a big baby sitter or a temporary lock-up. keeps them off the streets during the day and for that I will happily pay the taxes.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:49 pm to mailman
Forced birth control and sterilization
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:50 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
The charter school my wife teaches at doesnt put up with undisciplined kids or kids/parents not putting forth effort. There is no school board just the principal and her decision. When a kid gets in trouble numerous times they are kicked out, you fail a grade more than once you are kicked out. Teachers are evaluated each year and they are given raises based on performance and fired based on performance. The education my kids are getting there is great and it nice to see the participation from parents in helping their kids and in all the schools functions.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:51 pm to mailman
get it out of the hands of the federal government would be a start...dept of Ed is unconstitional...
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:52 pm to dnm3305
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compensate teachers more.
This is not a solution..Teachers that make more in other states have the same issues..
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:55 pm to kingbob
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does every American really need to learn how to analyze poetry and English novels every single year?)
It becomes redundant, esp after taking it in junior high, high school and college.
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Stop treating everyone as if they MUST go to college to be a success. Trades are extremely valuable and students should be allowed to explore them in school.
This helps students put their education into perspective. You never apply any skills until you get a get job. Implementing what you learned into real world situations following a course would be be a great way to segway students into the real world
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:59 pm to mailman
It all starts with the parents. Educators can't go home with them. Kids need two parents that love one another and the parents need to value education. Don't have kids if you don't want to be parent and life long spouse to the mother/ father.
Popular culture erodes this fact. We are scared to offend anyone so this will never be part of public curriculum.
Popular culture erodes this fact. We are scared to offend anyone so this will never be part of public curriculum.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:00 pm to mailman
Getting rid of No Child Left Behind would be a start.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:04 pm to mailman
Several years ago my wife and I took our then 8 year old son to space camp in Huntsville for the parent-child 4 day trip. There were lots of other groups there, day ones and also one group of 15 year old kids from a private school in India. They had flown 30 hours for a week long camp.
One night I went out after lights out to get a snack at the vending machine and saw this one kid working under one of the street lights. Curious, I went and talked to him. He hadn't finished his calculus homework on the plane and was doing it under a streetlight at 11 pm.
I think the main issue with our system is we spend too much time and energy on the kids who aren't going to college. We need to spend more time on the best and brightest future Bill Gates' of the world and let those who are going to be flipping burgers or hanging drywall get out of our system at 15.
One night I went out after lights out to get a snack at the vending machine and saw this one kid working under one of the street lights. Curious, I went and talked to him. He hadn't finished his calculus homework on the plane and was doing it under a streetlight at 11 pm.
I think the main issue with our system is we spend too much time and energy on the kids who aren't going to college. We need to spend more time on the best and brightest future Bill Gates' of the world and let those who are going to be flipping burgers or hanging drywall get out of our system at 15.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:13 pm to dnm3305
Accept the fact that kids are gonna get left behind. There is nothing that will change that.
Plenty of kids that the no kid left behind stuff focuses on come from families and areas that don't stand a chance to better themselves. They continue the cycle of the life they live around
Plenty of kids that the no kid left behind stuff focuses on come from families and areas that don't stand a chance to better themselves. They continue the cycle of the life they live around
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:17 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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compensate teachers more.
This is not a solution..Teachers that make more in other states have the same issues..
That is because it is the SAME teachers making more money. That's not what my point was. My point was to attract younger, smarter people into getting into the education field instead of interior design, engineering, criminal justice, marketing, etc. The current teachers have no hope. As they are weened out, this new crop will eventually fill the classrooms. This is not a short process but a 10-20 yr process. Once again, it's all irrelevant because the parents of some of these kids will not change because 10-20 yrs from now, all the ignorant and uneducated will be parents themselves. It is what it is. It will never get better and more than likely only get worse with time.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:17 pm to Fat and Happy
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Accept the fact that kids are gonna get left behind. There is nothing that will change that.
And?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:19 pm to mailman
I have at least 3 friends who are teachers who have no business teaching kids. Upping the standards for teachers would be a start. Smarter teachers, smarter students imo.
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:19 pm to mailman
This might not be very popular, but I say remove the requirement to go to school beyond elementary, remove the minimum wage and allow parents to sign a waiver allowing their kids to work
Only the kids that GAF will stay and the ones that go into the workforce young earning $2 dollars an hour to dig ditches will come back pretty damned motivated to learn.
Only the kids that GAF will stay and the ones that go into the workforce young earning $2 dollars an hour to dig ditches will come back pretty damned motivated to learn.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:22 pm to Topwater Trout
Leave it up to the states and the citizens of those states. The Fed don't know frick about education.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:24 pm to mailman
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We never gather data on whether students are doing their homework or not, and never hold the parents responsible for their children
If children have no support at home, all the money in the world wont help them.
When it comes to family values people need to set the bar higher if you want things to get better in the classroom. There is a group in this country that refuse to better themselves and wants to drag the rest down with them. I say its time to cut bait. Segregate the ones that want to learn from the ones that dont and send the ones that dont to trade school.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:25 pm to mailman
I'd propose a summer session, have a 2-3 week break between spring and fall sessions. Could be for remedial or lighter, even recreational classes, advanced or career-oriented classes as well. The intention would be for it not to be as rigorous as regular semester but better than the summer brain dump and a chance for students to keep up, get ahead or broaden interests.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:26 pm to mailman
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how can we improve our educational system?
Certain demographics have to actually place value on education.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:26 pm to ZereauxSum
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This might not be very popular, but I say remove the requirement to go to school beyond elementary, remove the minimum wage and allow parents to sign a waiver allowing their kids to work
I think kids that don't GAF like to go to high school and hang around.
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