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Houston's Astrodome -- a new plan being considered for remodeling and saving it

Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:52 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:52 am
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It's nine acres of indoor open space on top of 1,400 covered parking spaces -- and will cost $105 million in government cash.


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Voters may wonder why a new plan is being pushed since 53 percent of voters in 2013 turned down a $213 million referendum to renovate and convert the 'Eighth Wonder of the World' into a state-of-the-art convention center and exhibition space known as the 'New Dome Experience.'

The reason? This plan does not require any private investors, according to county officials, who add that if the plan is approved by county commissioners the dome makeover won't require a tax increase for you at all.


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The plan will build two layers of parking which start on what is now the floor of the dome.

You could theoretically park your truck where Nolan Ryan pitched or Earl Campbell ran.

Another layer of parking on that and then the new floor.

Just a floor.

Giant conventions could rent it. The rodeo carnival could use to, too.

But there's a catch: The $105 million price tag does not buy air conditioning. We did confirm the dome will have ventilation, at least.


Basically, they want to gut the inside, raise the floor, put a parking garage at the bottom and have non-air conditioned event space at the top.

What a waste of money. Just tear it down. The politicians seem so afraid to have their names attached to the demolition of the Astrodome.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 11:53 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39576 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:54 am to
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The reason? This plan does not require any private investors,


If this was such a sure thing wouldn't a private investor have approached them?

I find it odd an investor is just willfully not making money on such a slam dunk..
Posted by OhMy
Member since Jan 2016
834 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:55 am to
Tearing it down is much easier said than done.

The building has a good deal of environmental issues (asbestos) to solve before demolition could occur.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103046 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:55 am to
It's over. Just a rats nest now.
Posted by GulfCoastPoke
Port of Indecision
Member since Feb 2011
1087 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:56 am to
It is more of an emotional thing for Houston voters. They cannot bring themselves to vote for it's demise.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:56 am to
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Tearing it down is much easier said than done.

The building has a good deal of environmental issues (asbestos) to solve before demolition could occur.


Sure, but between the cost of all the studies and votes and whatnot spent trying to come up with these plans to remodel the place, you'd have the think that they aren't really saving money anymore.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:56 am to
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The building has a good deal of environmental issues (asbestos) to solve before demolition could occur.



Will this not have to be fixed for a remodel as well?
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54499 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:56 am to
I thought they tore it down 20 years ago.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:57 am to
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The building has a good deal of environmental issues (asbestos) to solve before demolition could occur.


1) Call up Texas death row inmates
2) Gaurd them with guns
3) Hand them jack-hammers
4) ???
5) No more dome/profit
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:00 pm to
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The plan will build two layers of parking which start on what is now the floor of the dome.

You could theoretically park your truck where Nolan Ryan pitched or Earl Campbell ran.

Another layer of parking on that and then the new floor.

Just a floor.

Giant conventions could rent it. The rodeo carnival could use to, too.

But there's a catch: The $105 million price tag does not buy air conditioning. We did confirm the dome will have ventilation, at least.


That might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33890 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:03 pm to
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Will this not have to be fixed for a remodel as well?


I'm not positive about the codes in TX but typically you don't have to remediate as long as you don't disturb the material. I think that's why they want to do a freestanding structure.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33890 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:06 pm to
I think the project is completely dead now, haven't heard anything in years, but there was a similar plan for Parker Coliseum to be filled with office space.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62762 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:08 pm to
On a related note, didn't the city of Pontiac sell the Silver dome for about 300 grand?
Now it look like shite.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18518 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:09 pm to
Why not just do the "gut the whole thing and make it a park/trail" plan? It preserves the "dome", You can still hold events underneath it, and people will actually go visit it because it will be a semi-interesting public space.




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ETA - You can build softball, flag football, kickball fields, dog parks, etc. underneath as well.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 12:13 pm
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27172 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:10 pm to
The thing just needs to be torn down. It costs a fortune to maintain the thing just sitting there.
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:15 pm to
No air conditioning? No thanks
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:29 pm to
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Basically, they want to gut the inside, raise the floor, put a parking garage at the bottom and have non-air conditioned event space at the top.


silly rabbit

there would be AC, they just dont want to list what it would cost.

it's kind of like that bunk arse new stadium deal the Rangers and Arlington are trying to screw everyone with.

they tell everyone a portion of the costs but hidden somewhere in the language will be something that significantly jacks the price tag up.
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:30 pm to
Ive always thought it should be made into a nice park/amphitheater with the same roof design.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36609 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:32 pm to
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Why not just do the "gut the whole thing and make it a park/trail" plan? It preserves the "dome", You can still hold events underneath it, and people will actually go visit it because it will be a semi-interesting public space.


That's what I have always wanted. Would be great for tailgating and the rodeo too.


Have a ballpark for little league games, and what not
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18902 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 12:33 pm to
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Why not just do the "gut the whole thing and make it a park/trail" plan? It preserves the "dome", You can still hold events underneath it, and people will actually go visit it because it will be a semi-interesting public space.


This is possibly the only viable plan I have ever heard. As long as Engineers agree that the superstructure would be safe free-standing, it would be damn cool to have a soccer field and some softball fields under it and around it. That being said, I don't know the location situation.

Would that area see traffic as a public park? Or is it central ghetto and would become an instant crack and meth arena?
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