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re: High credit score = no assistance from FEMA

Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:27 pm to
So........ The OP is wrong.
Posted by Alleman
St. George
Member since Apr 2013
741 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:27 pm to
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I think it's wrong that the people who work and pay for the so called "handouts" can't get them. My thing is I work I pay my taxes for FEMA to operate but when u need it they give your money to people who invested 0 to taxes and offer you a loan. That shite ant right!


The federal government rewards irresponsible behavior: this is just another example, just like the "mortgage crisis." Be patient, student loan forgiveness is next.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:29 pm to
I went through this and I got screwed after Katrina too. I had flood insurance but not enough. I took a rate subsidized SBA loan to make up the difference and it still wasn't close so I had to do much of the work myself. The criterion had nothing to do with credit score but some arbitrary formula they came up with that uses your income, the amount of coverage you had versus how much damage you had, they're trying to determine unmet needs or some shite. If I remember correctly your contents are ignored in this formula. You can have a shitty credit score or a great one but the result of the formula is the ultimate determination. This is just how I remember it. I remember feeling nauseous about it back then too. I guarantee it will cost you more money in the long run if your neighbor's can't rebuild than if they just made a lesser amount equal for everyone.

I'm telling you all, history says, this influx of work will be a net positive for the entire area.

Bon chance, this shite sucks and I hope you get through this with as little pain as possible.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44102 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:37 pm to
I rented, lost everything but my car..and got $0.00 from them. Nothing but a nice pre recorded message telling me I can get an sba loan.

I'm probably fricked due to renting and income. Whatever. People with kids and a house probably need it more...

and people in Iraq, Syria,afghanistan, whatever other 3rd world hellhole we arm for oil

No inquiries showed on my credit report so I'm skeptical any type of hard inquiry was done

Eta: I see id need to app first and potentially get rejected, which I wouldn't, to get a grant.

This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 2:00 am
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:40 pm to
Do you have flood insurance? If you do and you flooded, you are NOT qualified for a grant.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:47 pm to
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Do you have flood insurance? If you do and you flooded, you are NOT qualified for a grant.





so being responsible is penalized?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84883 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:49 pm to
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So........ The OP is wrong.


The title of this thread is 100% false. That isn't debatable.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48357 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:49 pm to
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I hope I'm not and he is wrong though...


No, sadly for many good citizens, I believe that the OP has the correct information.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84883 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:50 pm to
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so being responsible is penalized?


That is where the "outrage" should be. People who actually took care of their shite and get nothing from FEMA are doing it right. Everything else is a handout, and this thread is full of people that are mad they're not getting as much of a handout as other people.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:51 pm to
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, I believe that the OP has the correct information.


He doesn't. Having a high credit score DOES NOT mean you won't get FEMA assistance.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38690 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:58 pm to
FEMA grants are relatively small, averaging $8000. So while that would help it wouldn't begin to cover the damage done to many peoples homes. You can get up to a $33,000 but that is the max and hardly anyone gets that much. Consider yourself fortunate you have good credit and can get a low interest loan to pay for repairs. The poor people with bad credit will not be able to repair their houses from the grant money.

Second, Congress often passes bills providing more grant assistance. Remember Hurricane Sandy on the East Coast? Congress provide $51 billion more in assistance separate from FEMA. But, some of Louisiana Republican Reps voted against that Bill and d'em yankees are laughing at y'all now.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48357 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:04 am to
The OP is wrong?

I'll just post the FEMA language that is the basis for my disagreement with you.

quote:

Additional Disaster Assistance Program Information: "Money is awarded for necessary assistance and serious needs caused by the disaster. This includes medical, dental, child care, funeral, personal property, transportation, and moving and storage that are authorized by law. To qualify for this assistance, you must have needs caused by the disaster not covered by insurance. For personal property, transportation, and moving and storage, an applicant must be declined a disaster loan from the SBA."
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 12:04 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84883 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:12 am to
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Additional Disaster Assistance Program Information: "Money is awarded for necessary assistance and serious needs caused by the disaster. This includes medical, dental, child care, funeral, personal property, transportation, and moving and storage that are authorized by law.


None of those are housing assistance, which is income and credit blind.

quote:

Q: Does my income need to be under a certain dollar amount to qualify for disaster aid?

A: FEMA’s Housing Assistance program is available, regardless of income, to anyone who suffered damages or losses in disaster-declared counties. However, aid for other losses such as personal property, vehicle repair or replacement, and moving and storage expenses is income-dependent and officials make decisions on a case-by-case basis. To be considered for a grant for these types of losses, the applicant must complete an application for an SBA loan.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:16 am to
I'll just post the FEMA language that is the basis for my disagreement with you.

quote:

Additional



quote:

FEMA’s Housing Assistance program is available, regardless of income,



Now can you please show me where it says "High Credit Score= No Assistance from FEMA"
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 12:19 am
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:22 am to
Champagne, not trying to be a dick but where in that passage is free money to fix your home located?

OP is just hugely misunderstood and getting people fired up over misinformation. Credit rating has absolutely, 100%, zero to do with this.
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11619 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:54 am to
Fema was/is so F.U. After Katrina they wanted me to take a SBA loan and give them my insurance checks, minus the contents check. The SBA loan was not close to what it would cost to rebuild my house. So that meant that would have my original loan the SBA loan and one I would have to take out to complete fixing my house. I said F.It and sold the damn thing to the LRA. I know 2 people that had apartments and got $10,000 and one lived on a second floor and had no damage at all.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12096 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:36 am to
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can you please show me where it says "High Credit Score= No Assistance from FEMA"

Here's my exact situation and exactly what I was told on the phone:
- I rent in Baton Rouge (not in a flood zone)
- I do not have flood insurance.
- My apartment flooded (several inches) and my car was damaged.
- My apartment manager has been Johnny on the spot and has already begun work to repair the damage.
- Because one of my bedrooms is higher and didn't flood, and because I have utilities, my apartment is (by FEMA standards) still habitable, never mind the smell, and therefore I do not qualify for rental assistance or assistance to move.
- I applied for FEMA assistance, was denied and referred to the SBA for a loan to cover the replacement of my possessions and repair of my car.
- I had to sign a form to allow the SBA to check my previous few years tax returns.
- I was contacted and my damaged was appraised.

WHILE ON THE PHONE WITH SOMEONE FROM FEMA
- I was told that they would check my credit and my situation to determine my eligibility for a loan.
- If my credit was good then I'd have to get a loan from the SBA; if my credit wasn't good enough for a loan THEN I would be kicked back to FEMA for a grant.

The man on the phone said that most people want the grant but that you have to check to see if you can get a loan first. He explained that they don't want to give a "millionaire money when other people need it."

So, at least as it applies to my situation, the OP is correct. Good credit = no grant. I have been approved for a loan and have been assigned a loan officer who "will contact [me] in the next couple of days."

I don't know how much I've been approved for or even how they determined the cost of my damages (was told there's a formula they use that is based on number of rooms and what they've decided the average person's value of contents per room). I'm sure I'm going to get screwed there because I lost a large number of pricy books, an antique china cabinet and several high-ish end electronics.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:44 am to
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n the fine print of the appication, it says that to receive a grant from FEMA, you have to be declined an SBA Loan.


It's beyond fricked up but when you apply for the SBA loan tell them your business makes $0 and has no assets and you will be turned down, it's not like they are going to check into a loan that was denied ya know.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51907 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:55 am to
Now I'm waiting for the stories of someone being ineligible for an SBA loan for some snag, but they have too high of a score for FEMA'a litmus.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85039 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:56 am to
OP is wrong in my case:

- I'm white
- household income 120k+
- 3 people in household: wife, son, me
- both of us have 750+ credit
- we qualify for an SBA loan. I have the paperwork already and have until Oct 12th to apply
- homeowners
- no flood insurance
- lost one car but saved another
- almost 4 ft of water inside home
- Timeline:
--- Saturday Aug 13th: I applied online for FEMA assistance
--- Wednesday Aug 17th: FEMA inspection (this was the first day I could even get to my home)
--- Thursday Aug 18th: Approval letter from FEMA detailing grant amount
--- Friday Aug 19th: Funds show up in my bank account
--- Saturday Aug 20th: 2nd FEMA inspection. 2 adjusters followed up to verify original findings

We got over $20k in assistance. And I'm going to appeal that to hopefully get more.
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