re: Hearings starting for bikers caught up in Waco shootout

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it's already been proven most of the people in jail are totally innocent

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Go visit a jail..I bet they are all innocent...

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You truly and honestly are a fricking idiot and even more pathetic, you're a message board troll.

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Says the guy who has 0 facts except what you heard happened by guess who....another biker douche that runs a blog...

100% of the people in jails are innocent..just ask them

You are the biggest pussy on this message board. All these fricks deserve jailtime for solely being involved in a dress up "gang." MS13 and other real gangs laugh at you figots.

OleWarSkuleAlum You are a special kind of stupid. Move on there is nothing here for you dick nose.

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prolly safer for the city if all those thugs stay in jail anyways

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Just think of all those big tittied innocent young Twin Peaks waitresses who are out of work now thanks to those goddamn bikers.

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OleWarSkuleAlum

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You're such a message board badass.

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How would you like your crow cooked, when this doesn't go as you planned

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what are you talking about, all these guys are innocent victims of a police massacre:

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Two Bandidos asked 54th State District Judge Matt Johnson to reduce their $1 million bonds at back-to-back hearings Wednesday. Reginald Weathers, 43, of Forney, was successful, but his fellow Bandido, Marcus Pilkington, 36, of Mexia, who has at least four pending felony cases against him in Limestone and Ellis counties, was not.

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they just good boys

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Nonsense. Waco PD are OBVIOUSLY covering up something huge. Darth has the inside scoop, didn't you hear?

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I have nothing more than what's been reported. But that's enough to know that while there are indeed some in jail today who deserve to be there, there's an even bigger number of people in jail right at a month later who do not deserve to be there.

I've said all along that anyone who actually caused and contributed to whatever happened in the parking lot needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But the notion of just rounding up everyone in the area, especially when there is 9 different video angles showing the vast majority of those people did nothing wrong, and locking them up with absurdly high bonds is flat out wrong. Hell, just look at the arrest warrants the cops filled out. Every single one is a carbon copy of the last. All the cops did was change the names on each arrest warrant. And then, instead of going before a real judge, they found some justice of the peace with zero legal background and had him throw the million dollar bonds on all of them. There's a whole lot about this story that is just plain wrong and anyone with half a brain and the capability to look at it from an unbiased and logical standpoint can see it.

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Exactly..Look at all the businesses complaining about missing their employees the last month..

Oh wait

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Read this from Reason.com

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What was initially reported as a motorcycle gang shootout that killed nine and wounded 18 to which police heroically responded last month in Waco, TX, at the Twin Peaks restaurant seems a bit more complicated, and bit worse for the cops, than that as further details have been revealed.



This week one of the people arrested at the scene, Matthew Clendennen, filed a lawsuit directly against the officers involved in the incident (Manuel Chavez by name, the others as John and Jane Does) as well as the city.

From that suit filing, in which Mr. Clendennen presents himself as a man with no criminal record, former fireman, small business owner on whom employees depend, and father of three who also depend on his ability to earn income, not to rot in jail. He insists he committed no crime and had no intention of committing any crime when he was arrested while in the Twin Peaks restaurant in the aftermath of the shooting event, and that:

Despite the fact that...Clendennen committed no criminal acts he was arrested at Twin Peaks on or about May 17, 2015 without probable cause and his motorcycle was illegally seized....On or about May 18, 2015, Chavez, aided by [unnamed other police officers], presented a criminal complaint (the “criminal complaint”) against...Clendennen to Justice of the Peace Walter H. "Pete" Peterson (Peterson)....The criminal complaint alleges that Plaintiff Matthew Alan Clendennen committed the capital offense of engaging in organized criminal activity and is attached hereto as Attachment A.

It is believed that Peterson was chosen by Chavez, Does 1-10 and Does 11-20 because he is a former Texas Department of Public Safety Trooper with no formal legal training......the identical criminal complaint used in Plaintiff Matthew Alan Clendennen’s case was used to justify the arrest of more than 100 other individuals and only the names were changed in the various criminal complaints.

The complaint alleges absolutely no individualize probable cause to establish that Plaintiff Matthew Alan Clendennen engaged in organized criminal activity. Moreover, Chavez...failed to inform Peterson that Plaintiff Matthew Alan Clendennen was not a member of the Cossacks nor the Bandidos and that he did not participate in any of the violence occurring at Twin Peaks but instead hid from the violence.

Clendennen is claiming that 170 people on the scene were just rounded up and arrested, in many cases had their motorcycles stolen by police, and were given a uniform $1 million dollar bond with no particular individual reason to believe they had committed any crime at all. He's actually trying to hit not just the city government, but the specific officers who arrested him, with liability for violating his rights. He claims to be at risk of losing both any custody of two of his children and his landscaping business while in jail.

According to this local NBC report, it will be months before those arrested at Twin Peaks get a probable cause hearing. But this week the insanely high bond was reduced for many of them, and some of them started getting out.

There are at least four reasons to wonder if the police account and actions about the motorcycle gang shootout that they allege to have pacified are above reproach:

1) As Clendennen's lawsuit notes, there is insufficient reason to believe that all the 170 arrested even committed any actual crime.

2) The police originally claimed that all those they arrested were members of the two "criminal gangs" most implicated in the deaths, the Bandidos and Cossacks; Associated Press found that not only were they not all members of those specific gangs, but whatever the criminality of the gangs, 115 of the arrested had no criminal records in Texas at least.

3) The police originally claimed over 1,000 weapons were confiscated on site, a number then downgraded to 318; but having a weapon on one's person is neither evidence of having committed nor having planned to commit a crime, but certainly can when announced to the press make some nervous people think, wow, glad the police started opening fire on that crowd!

4) Despite police reports that the fighting and shooting began inside the restaurant and spilled out, closed-circuit footage of the restaurant seen by AP and reports from the restaurateurs to the AP indicate the shooting began outside, which is where the police already were.

The police were already surrounding the restaurant in force, ready for action. Exactly how and why they began firing on the bikers and what happened before then should not necessarily be trusted merely from their mouths. They still have not officially announced how many of the dead or wounded were shot by police themselves.

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I don't want to read your one sided, speculative articles

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Yeah because the Dallas Morning News, AP, and Waco Tribune reports totally contradict your bullshite bias here. There is no "speculation" on the videos. But since that does not fit your narrative and bias you can't bring your feeble, sheepish mind to accept them.

At least I'm honest enough to admit there were bikers there who were committing crimes and I've said those people need to be dealt with according to the law. You on the other hand ignore all evidence that we've been given by the press showing the majority of the people in jail are totally innocent and don't even belong to any "outlaw motorcycle gang". You've already made up your mind because you don't like bikers and what all of them to rot in jail for no better reason than that. frick the constitution, frick the bill of rights, frick due process, frick the actual rule of law. You don't like bikers so lock 'em all up.