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re: Head of NOLA Firefighter's Union Says Firemen WERE there

Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:02 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:02 am to
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Sucks for the firefighters. They were damned either way. None of them wanted to do it, but is it worth losing your job over?


If they were unionized they could have told the city no. I'm sure their contract specifies that out of job title duties are off limits to certain employees. At least that's how unions up here work.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:02 am to
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Yea I believe it and those who aren't from New Orleans never once came here solely to look at those statues, but now their feelings are hurt.


You better be careful making an argument based on the statues' effect on someone's life.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:03 am to
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It is not a municipal project? Shouldn't it make sense that some city department was there?


First off, they would have somehow fricked it up. Moreover, it would have taken years to remove them.

Landrieu wanted the project to be completed quickly.
Posted by Lilpickles
Member since Nov 2016
1701 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:04 am to
And there is it is: "Racist". The marquee of the democratic playbook.

You are a f*cking racist you piece of shite. See how easy that is. If someone does not agree with you it has nothing to do with race you simpleton. Get a education and learn a new f*cking word. Phonics.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108741 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:05 am to
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Sounds like the shopped independent contractors and did not get a quote they liked. Decided it would save the city money to use its own staff and resources.

They handled it correctly and saved money. Not sure I see the issue. The statue was coming down regardless.


Mitch said no taxpayer money would be used to remove the statues.

Mitch said there was private money being used for removal. If he used city employees that were on the clock then where did the private money go?

Mitch said that whoever removed the statues would be licensed, bonded, and insured.

The trucking company used isn't listed on the Sec of State website.

NOPD and NOFD were dressed out in riot gear and used for "crowd control".

You don't see anything wrong with any of that?


ETA - and how is it "saving money" when the plan was originally to have the entire operation privately funded but ended up being done by city employees?
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 8:08 am
Posted by Lilpickles
Member since Nov 2016
1701 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:08 am to
Send them their welfare check and food stamps and they will vote and support any action by a baboons arse.

Oh I sound racist....sorry...
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 8:09 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20892 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:09 am to
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Do I believe that people that are not residents of New Orleans are the loudest people crying foul on this whole statue ordeal? Yea I believe it and those who aren't from New Orleans never once came here solely to look at those statues, but now their feelings are hurt.


I can't speak for anyone else, but I have deep ties to New Orleans, and so does my family, going back to the early 1700's from France. To ignorantly claim that anyone complaining about the statues coming down doesn't live there or doesn't have any ties there is incredibly insulting.

Further, to act like this is a manufactured controversy on their part completely ignores the fact that they magically became controversial after 100+ years of sitting silently.

The only person that manufactured this controversy is Mitch Landrieu, to drum up political support for the fickle minority community, who can't seem to think for themselves.

From speaking with you, it seems like he was successful.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 8:13 am
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
65497 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:09 am to
Ah that might be a problem. I was unaware of all of that. I deserve my downvotes and will be leaving the discussion
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:13 am to
the liberty monument does not qualify as "sitting silently for 100 years"
I agree with the rest of your post though
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3511 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:14 am to
god I wouldn't trust Mitch to run a lemonade stand! So glad to see where my property taxes are going.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20892 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:17 am to
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the liberty monument does not qualify as "sitting silently for 100 years"
I agree with the rest of your post though


So change the placard. That doesn't change the monument to the 30+ dead on both sides that died fighting. If anything that monument had the biggest connection to New Orleans as it memorialized an actual event where citizens died.

If I was a family member of one of the people that died I would absolutely be livid about it. What person has the right to tear down a monument to the dead?

There were metroplitan police that were memorialized there that now have to come down because some politician wants his approval rating to go up among certain demographics.

ETA:that's aside from the fact that the monument was being torn down to essentially ensure even fewer people know about what happened in September of 1874.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 8:25 am
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:20 am to
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Man, who gives a shite
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:21 am to
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You better be careful making an argument based on the statues' effect on someone's life.



You mean the residents of New Orleans vs the opposition that does not reside in New Orleans?
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4617 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:21 am to
Judging by the responses to my post, you and many, many others!
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84081 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:22 am to
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You mean the residents of New Orleans vs the opposition that does not reside in New Orleans?



You know exactly what I mean. Don't play dumb.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8606 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:22 am to
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Do I believe that people that are not residents of New Orleans are the loudest people crying foul on this whole statue ordeal?


I agree with you, however, somebody has to do the critical thinking for the citizens of NOLA. Look at the garbage you mfers keep electing down there. The Landrieus and Morials have run NOLA into the ground, yet you dumbasses keep electing them and their relatives.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:25 am to
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I have deep ties to New Orleans, and so does my family, going back to the early 1700's from France. To ignorantly claim that anyone complaining about the statues coming down doesn't live there or doesn't have any ties there is incredibly insulting.

Further, to act like this is a manufactured controversy on their part completely ignores the fact that they magically became controversial after 100+ years of sitting silently.

The only person that manufactured this controversy is Mitch Landrieu, to drum up political support for the fickle minority community, who can't seem to think for themselves.

From speaking with you, it seems like he was successful.




Let me get this straight you support a group who fought for states rights, but have a problem with a city exercising its right to remove statues that the residents want removed?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108741 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:26 am to
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that the residents want removed


I wasn't aware that there was a vote.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84081 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:26 am to
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that the residents want removed?


Link?
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:27 am to
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Racist who love to cling to the past.



quote:

U.S. Code Title 38 – Veterans’ Benefits, Part II – General Benefits, Chapter 15 – Pension for Non-Service-Connected Disability or Death or for Service, Subchapter I – General, § 1501. Definitions: (3) The term “Civil War veteran” includes a person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War, and the term “active military or naval service” includes active service in those forces.


Confederate Soldiers get the same honors, benefits, and pensions as US Army Soldiers. So tearing down General Lee, PGT Beauregard would be akin to tearing down the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
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