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re: Have You Ever Dealt With Stress to the Point it Affected You Physically?
Posted on 8/13/16 at 3:53 am to 7thWardTiger
Posted on 8/13/16 at 3:53 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
Yes. I have a broken molar from grinding my teeth so hard in my sleep from stress. Have to sleep with a mouthpiece in now.
I had the same issue, and I even woke myself up grinding the mouthpiece. A magnesium supplement cured the issue.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 6:43 am to OweO
Yep. Honestly the last few months have been really affecting me
Posted on 8/13/16 at 6:58 am to OweO
Talk about it on here all the time...
Below is a good, easy to understand description "how" stress affects our physiology.
Very important read.
Stress
Stress Cup/Allostatic Load
Below is a good, easy to understand description "how" stress affects our physiology.
Very important read.
Stress
Stress Cup/Allostatic Load
This post was edited on 8/13/16 at 7:14 am
Posted on 8/13/16 at 7:39 am to ThinePreparedAni
Been dealing with a sudden break up which ultimately made me have to move in just a few days. Added to the fact that work has been out of this world stressful and ive lost 20 lbs in less than a month.
Posted on 8/13/16 at 7:40 am to ThinePreparedAni
Management of stress:
Breath work
Meditation
Prayer
Yoga (anyone see the new season of NFL Hard-knocks?)
Jacobsen progressive muscular relaxation
Mobility work/stretching with coordinating breathing (similar to yoga..)
Exercise with coordinated breathing during work/rest intervals
The focus for all of the above should be on breathing (taking control of the parasympathetic nervous system by conciously controlling the breath/slow extended exhalation = increases vagal tone). This keeps you in the rest/recovery mode. We should be in rest/recovery mode 90% plus of the time (parasympathetic dominance). Not surprisingly, these themes have shown up in most major cultures/religions in much of recorded history. Only recently have we seemed to dismiss this "foolishness"
Instead, most modern people spend the majority of their time in sympathetic dominance mode (fight /flight). They struggle to get into rest/relax mode. Substance abuse issues can evolve to try to compensate. Strange conditions evolve from being in chronic sympathetic states : hypetension, palpatations, muscle aches/tension, GI and urinary disturbances, poor sleep, insulin resistence, weight fluctuations, etc thus creating a vicious cycle of more worry/ stress. Well intentioned providers often try to control these symptoms with medication (with often limited success). This is further made worse by social media oneupmanship, media negativity bias, excessive work hours, limited sleep, etc... Look around and see the effects of this (diseases of Western civilizations)
Other ways to increase vagal tone by using breath:
Singing/chant
Playing a woodwind instrument
Breath work
Meditation
Prayer
Yoga (anyone see the new season of NFL Hard-knocks?)
Jacobsen progressive muscular relaxation
Mobility work/stretching with coordinating breathing (similar to yoga..)
Exercise with coordinated breathing during work/rest intervals
The focus for all of the above should be on breathing (taking control of the parasympathetic nervous system by conciously controlling the breath/slow extended exhalation = increases vagal tone). This keeps you in the rest/recovery mode. We should be in rest/recovery mode 90% plus of the time (parasympathetic dominance). Not surprisingly, these themes have shown up in most major cultures/religions in much of recorded history. Only recently have we seemed to dismiss this "foolishness"
Instead, most modern people spend the majority of their time in sympathetic dominance mode (fight /flight). They struggle to get into rest/relax mode. Substance abuse issues can evolve to try to compensate. Strange conditions evolve from being in chronic sympathetic states : hypetension, palpatations, muscle aches/tension, GI and urinary disturbances, poor sleep, insulin resistence, weight fluctuations, etc thus creating a vicious cycle of more worry/ stress. Well intentioned providers often try to control these symptoms with medication (with often limited success). This is further made worse by social media oneupmanship, media negativity bias, excessive work hours, limited sleep, etc... Look around and see the effects of this (diseases of Western civilizations)
Other ways to increase vagal tone by using breath:
Singing/chant
Playing a woodwind instrument
This post was edited on 8/13/16 at 8:18 am
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:05 am to OweO
Most people have no idea how much damage "stress breathing" can do. This is short breathing with the neck and chest muscles, as opposed to diaphragmatic breathing.
This blows up your scalene muscles, which can create all kinds of issues, even resembling carpal tunnel due to peripheral neuropathy.
This blows up your scalene muscles, which can create all kinds of issues, even resembling carpal tunnel due to peripheral neuropathy.
Posted on 8/14/16 at 9:00 am to OweO
Was in a very stressful job for several years, and am also a diabetic. Stress levels were so bad that they almost made my diabetes uncontrollable.
Sought assistance from an endocrinologist, retired at 60 years old, and have never regretted choosing my health over work!
Sought assistance from an endocrinologist, retired at 60 years old, and have never regretted choosing my health over work!
Posted on 8/14/16 at 9:54 am to OweO
like a few others here, stress weakened my immune system and i had a cold last for about 10 days
Posted on 8/14/16 at 10:22 am to OweO
Yes I have. A job a few years that raised my blood pressure to unsafe levels. I lost 20-30 pounds and stopped eating whole meals. Quit that shite the day my dad died. Life is too short man.
Posted on 8/14/16 at 10:35 am to ThinePreparedAni
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Social media oneupmanship
This right here. Some people sit around all day looking at their phones and thinking the people they are looking at on fb are living the dream. People need to realize what they are showing is highlights of heir life and most of the people that have to show every single aspect of their life and show how "great" it is are trying to prove it to themselves also The stay at home soccer moms are generally pretty miserable and need some attention in the worst way
Posted on 8/14/16 at 10:55 am to OweO
quote:
Have You Ever Dealt With Stress to the Point it Affected You Physically?
Caused me to have a stroke.
Posted on 8/14/16 at 11:07 am to TigersSEC2010
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Yes. For some reason earlier this year I began feeling stress unlike ever before. I basically turned into a hypochondriac and my stomach was always in knots, I started getting bits of muscle fasciculations. It fricking sucked. I finally realized I wasn't dying, life wasn't as bad as it seemed at the moment, and over the course of a couple months, that all has slowly disappeared.
Did you do anything particular to help?
I've posted on here about it a couple of times but I'm kinda going through the same thing though for no discernible reason which really concerns me.
I have/had no stress at all with work, home, family etc... but have become incredibly anxious (mostly health related) which now seems to be pushing me into some kind of depression.
It's pretty awful and something that I've never had any issues with for the first 34 years of my life. Can't seem to snap out of it though no matter what I do/try.
This post was edited on 8/14/16 at 11:13 am
Posted on 8/14/16 at 11:11 am to OweO
Yep. Lost 30 pounds in 90 days. Didn't change my routine. Just kept feeling sick at night and in the mornings. Dr prescribed some anti anx meds. I'm cool as a cucumber now.
Posted on 8/14/16 at 11:14 am to RandySavage
Low hanging fruit to consider:
any sleep changes (shift work)/circadian disruption
quality of your diet
vit D level
thyroid function
testosterone level (can manifest as depression)
how much do you workout/run (Macho Man may be overtraining, see stress cup above)
see a primary care MD for basic screen/check
See my posts above for other considerations...
any sleep changes (shift work)/circadian disruption
quality of your diet
vit D level
thyroid function
testosterone level (can manifest as depression)
how much do you workout/run (Macho Man may be overtraining, see stress cup above)
see a primary care MD for basic screen/check
See my posts above for other considerations...
Posted on 8/14/16 at 11:24 am to ThinePreparedAni
Literally two or three days before all my stuff started I had a moment where I was standing in my backyard cleaning up after an evening of playing with my kids thinking I had everything I had ever wanted. I got choked up for a moment with how great things were and how blessed I felt.
So I don't know where this all came from.
I exercise regularly but am certainly not overtraining.
I've seen a doc a couple of times but I think I am going to go back and see if Low testosterone could be an issue.
Is it pretty normal for anxiety to lead to depression? I feel like 3-4 days ago my anxiety went away but it was replaced by depression feelings which has been even worse and now I'm anxious about being depressed forever. Basically an endless cycle of suck. Everybody keeps telling me to get on meds to break the cycle but I don't even know if that's how it works...
TLDR I know but it helps to vent.
So I don't know where this all came from.
I exercise regularly but am certainly not overtraining.
I've seen a doc a couple of times but I think I am going to go back and see if Low testosterone could be an issue.
Is it pretty normal for anxiety to lead to depression? I feel like 3-4 days ago my anxiety went away but it was replaced by depression feelings which has been even worse and now I'm anxious about being depressed forever. Basically an endless cycle of suck. Everybody keeps telling me to get on meds to break the cycle but I don't even know if that's how it works...
TLDR I know but it helps to vent.
This post was edited on 8/14/16 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 8/14/16 at 12:12 pm to RandySavage
quote:
Everybody keeps telling me to get on meds to break the cycle but I don't even know if that's how it works...
That's EXACTLY how it works. When your quality of life drops drastically, and you are going days to weeks that way? You need meds. If a simple Benzo breaks it and you are fine in a week? Great. Move on with life. If not you may need meds and counseling. Cognitive behavioral therapy.
I stopped at meds. I've had flare ups where I thought about counseling, but they always subside. You CAN keep going the way you are going. But it is miserable. And when you notice that your kids notice? That's another wall of guilt, panic, and depression.
My rock bottom... Full disclosure. I already mentioned my driving range meltdown. Just had to leave a bucket of balls in the tee box. Later that night I fricking BAWLED in front of my wife. We had just went to bed. Couldn't do it. Couldn't stop it. She knew I was anxious, but that freaked her out. It was a good 3 minutes of shameful sobbing. I don't think I've cried that hard at deaths of loved ones. Made ZERO fricking sense.
That's why it's anxiety or depressive DISORDER. If I chase you with an axe, you should be anxious. If a parent dies, you should be depressed and grieve. But when your life is just rolling along and your brain is telling you to feel the same way? Releasing the same chemicals? It is no way to live.
Good luck.
Posted on 8/14/16 at 12:46 pm to RandySavage
quote:
RandySavage
The more I hear about your situation in these threads the more similar it is to mine. We're the same age, both seem to have been content with young families and both had this shite start over perceived health issues. I'm almost through mine (been 3 months) and everything you're saying I was experiencing a month or so ago. You can email me if you want (csmit55@gmail).
Posted on 8/14/16 at 5:55 pm to jwall3
quote:
Yes. I lost a daughter 3+ years ago. She was 15. Beginning the day of and lasting weeks after I developed what I can only describe as chronic arthritis in my knees. Could not walk without crutches and a lot of pain.
I didn't get to read this thread because something came up right after I started it so I was just doing so and I am sorry to hear about this man..
Posted on 8/14/16 at 6:48 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
Later that night I fricking BAWLED in front of my wife. We had just went to bed. Couldn't do it. Couldn't stop it. She knew I was anxious, but that freaked her out. It was a good 3 minutes of shameful sobbing. I don't think I've cried that hard at deaths of loved ones. Made ZERO fricking sense.
Dude until today I had cried for no reason like 4 days in a row including like 3 or 4 different times yesterday, my birthday, like boo hoo cried. It was the first time through all this I felt depressed rather than anxious.
Today has actually been an overall good day but I'm going to try to get on some kind of med/counseling action plan first thing tomorrow.
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