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re: Harrisburg police officer wrongly accuses veteran, 75, of 'stolen valor'
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:58 pm to C
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:58 pm to C
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thats the actual law. You're not prosecuted for simply dressing up like a soldier. You have to be using it for a benefit.
And, actually, that doesn't appear to be the law. It is illegal to wear medals you didn't earn. It ALSO includes the "gain" provision. And, the specificity on medals is an attempt to get past the prior Supreme Court Decision.
But, frankly, if it ever gets to the Supreme court, that part is gonna get bitch slapped too. Rightfully so.
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:58 pm to REG861
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You sound like a complete pussy..Did I say sound? Sorry, I meant you are a complete pussy.
Oooohhhh. You are such an internet tough guy.
But, I deserve some bashing because I hi jacked the thread and should have made my point more quickly.
We all agree that the mayor and police officer owe an apology to Mr. Ford.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:00 pm to Champagne
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However, the issue revolves around USMC rules. Here is the governing rule for ex Marines, which clearly states that one who dons the current active duty USMC dress uniform must comply with height and weight regulations.
If you are suggesting that the man who is volunteering to play the bugle at a memorial day ceremony should be denied because he isn't 100% compliant you are being absurd.
Even my senior officer family member thought this was absurd
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:01 pm to Champagne
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You sound like a complete pussy..Did I say sound? Sorry, I meant you are a complete pussy.
Oooohhhh. You are such an internet tough guy.
Shouldn't you be in Harrisburg right now, reporting your findings to the City Council? I mean your results on here were breathtaking, Im sure they're eagerly anticipating them over there. Thank you sir for keeping us safe online from decorated 75 year old war heroes. We salute you and your fashion criticism of geriatric veterans
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:04 pm to stout
When keeping it real goes wrong.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:07 pm to GenesChin
I just quoted the USMC regs.
The reg has a purpose. The USMC doesn't want ex Marines running around in dress blues unless they comply with height and weight regs. The USMC cares about the appearance of personnel wearing the USMC dress blues. That's not absurd.
The reg has a purpose. The USMC doesn't want ex Marines running around in dress blues unless they comply with height and weight regs. The USMC cares about the appearance of personnel wearing the USMC dress blues. That's not absurd.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:09 pm to REG861
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Shouldn't you be in Harrisburg right now, reporting your findings to the City Council? I mean your results on here were breathtaking, Im sure they're eagerly anticipating them over there. Thank you sir for keeping us safe online from decorated 75 year old war heroes. We salute you and your fashion criticism of geriatric veteran
I apologize for sort of hi jacking the thread and not doing the research sooner in this thread. I deserve some bashing for that, and I'll take my lumps.
We agree that Mr. Ford was mistreated. Let's leave it at that.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:13 pm to Champagne
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The reg has a purpose. The USMC doesn't want ex Marines running around in dress blues unless they comply with height and weight regs. The USMC cares about the appearance of personnel wearing the USMC dress blues. That's not absurd
Yes. Absolutely.
And, as any half decent officer will tell you, no regulation included EVERY possibility. If they did, they'd all be 10,000 pages long and STILL, they'd leave shite out.
That's where human intellect comes in.
I can guaranfrickingtee you that GEN Dunford wouldn't say a fricking word to some 75 year old Marine who hadn't managed to maintain his youthful appearance.
Of course, GEN Dunford is probably a reasonably smart man.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:15 pm to Champagne
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I apologize for sort of hi jacking the thread and not doing the research sooner in this thread. I deserve some bashing for that, and I'll take my lumps.
We agree that Mr. Ford was mistreated. Let's leave it at that.
In that case I apologize for making it personal and getting combative..I can get pretty heated on here. If the guy was 40 or something I can understand your criticism more. But he's 75 and we're talking about a different era sadly. A better era than either you or I belong to, which saddens me. I know the stolen valor thing is a big deal these days. I don't have a problem with it being regulated to some extent. But that poor guy was harassed and humiliated well beyond what was called for, especially at his age.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:24 pm to REG861
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But that poor guy was harassed and humiliated well beyond what was called for, especially at his age.
I agree completely.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:25 pm to Champagne
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In conclusion, my opinion is that, u
Unfortunately your opinion doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:28 pm to arseinclarse
If that fat frick cop was a marine, it was about 150 lbs ago.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:29 pm to ShortyRob
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Of course, GEN Dunford is probably a reasonably smart man.
I'm sure that he's an extremely intelligent man.
All I did was find the answer to the question of whether the USMC regs allow an ex Marine to wear his dress blues when said ex Marine is not in compliance with the USMC height and weight regs.
The answer is "negative."
I regret that the quest to find the answer to this question upset you this evening. I hope that the rest of your evening is not so upsetting to you.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:31 pm to bencoleman
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Unfortunately your opinion doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
I found the governing regulation, which is in accord with my opinion.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:33 pm to REG861
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But he's 75 and we're talking about a different era sadly.
The really sad part of the story is that he seems to have been alone that day. He wasn't in the company of fellow vets. If he were surrounded by his comrades, I doubt that the cop would have accosted him.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:40 pm to Champagne
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I just quoted the USMC regs.
The reg has a purpose. The USMC doesn't want ex Marines running around in dress blues unless they comply with height and weight regs. The USMC cares about the appearance of personnel wearing the USMC dress blues. That's not absurd.
I stand corrected on the USMC regs. But it seems that the Marine Corps League, you know a veteran's group that you encouraged Ford to join, thinks he's good to go. And you are being absurd if you think that his appearance is bringing discredit to the uniform or the USMC.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:40 pm to Champagne
Is there any doubt that Champagne walks around trying to "STOLEN VALOR!" people?
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:41 pm to poochie
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s there any doubt that Champagne walks around trying to "STOLEN VALOR!" people?
I'm getting that impression
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:44 pm to Champagne
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All I did was find the answer to the question of whether the USMC regs allow an ex Marine to wear his dress blues when said ex Marine is not in compliance with the USMC height and weight regs.
The answer is "negative."
So you are suggesting that an AD Marine outside the maximum/minimum height/weight standard is prohibited from wearing Dress Blues?
I've seen a few fat Marines in Class A's in my time.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:50 pm to Sal Minella
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But it seems that the Marine Corps League, you know a veteran's group that you encouraged Ford to join, thinks he's good to go. And you are being absurd if you think that his appearance is bringing discredit to the uniform or the USMC.
All I did was find the USMC reg that answers the question of ex Marines wearing the dress blues.
I didn't opine at all whether his appearance is bringing discredit to the uniform or the USMC.
I regret that I gave anyone the impression that I was attacking Mr. Ford. That's my fault if I gave that impression.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 12:00 am
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