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re: Granite countertop opinions

Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:06 am to
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:06 am to
I cant go into all the many reasons, but soapstone is the answer and its a slam dunk.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:06 am to
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I don't do design or trends, but as far as a countertop that is completely indestructible, granite is your best (and probably only) option. It doesn't require any sealing (you can seal it if you want), you can put a hot pan down on it without damaging it. Clean it with abrasive pads, cut on it if you don't like your knives much.


How is granite the only option for this?


Simjply put, Granit is the BEST option for this. There is a reason it is so popular.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22681 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:08 am to
do concrete brah.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Simjply put, Granit is the BEST option for this. There is a reason it is so popular.



How is it superior to quartz in the ways listed?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83558 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:19 am to
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I cant go into all the many reasons, but soapstone is the answer and its a slam dunk.


or go with concrete and get the same look for half the price and it doesn't scratch when you set a glass on it
Posted by AbsolutTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
4796 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:19 am to
This is also my question. I hate tile countertops so I want them gone, but I'd like to do it cost effectively.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:23 am to
Paradise Granite in Atlanta, GA has granite starting at $27/sqft shipped cut and installed. I know a contractor that uses them for all his homes. I'm thinking about using them for my home. They only have so many colors in the $27-$30 range but they aren't bad. Call them and they'll send you an email with all the colors they have and how much they are
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28164 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Simjply put, Granite is the BEST option for this. There is a reason it is so popular.


Agreed.

LOL@ people who seal granite also.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22501 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:32 am to
Granite has been around a long time and will be for a long time yet to come. Our granite kitchen invites us to do the happy dance, compared with any other countertop materials we've ever had.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:39 am to
quote:

LOL@ people who seal granite also.



Why?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28164 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:41 am to
I think it's a scam.

I've had granite for years (high polish) and never sealed it.
Other than a very temporary effect, how is non-porous stone going to absorb any sealant?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:42 am to
It is porous.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28164 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:44 am to
Here's a good article on the process:

LINK

From the link:
But the reality is less than 20% of granite actually requires being sealed. That means that upwards of 80% of the granite installed in homes requires no sealer at all.

The tests
So how do you know if you have a stone that falls into the 20% category or not? A simple test that is based on nature. Have you ever seen a granite stone in nature or a granite statue after a rain? Watch it carefully and see what it does. You probably will see it dry very quickly, almost instantly. What you are seeing is a granite that doesn't absorb water. This is the same principal used to test your granite. Simply putting a small amount of water on granite and letting it sit for about 15 minutes is all that is required. At the end of 15 minutes wipe the water off with a paper towel. Now examine the stone. Did is it darkened where the water was? If so your stone requires a sealer and falls into the 20% If not then you don't. In fact if you tried to seal the granite that didn't darken, the sealer would just get wiped off since the stone simply won't absorb it.

Now go on to test number two. Drop a drop of mineral oil on the slab and leave it for 10 minutes. Clean it off and see what you get. (Don't worry, any dark spot will lighten and disappear within 20-30 minutes and not hurt the stone) If you have a darkened spot then your stone is susceptible to a staining agent. You need to seal the stone. I recommend a solvent based sealer/impregnator. There are water based products on the market but solvent based is still the king, at least for now.

This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 10:50 am
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:46 am to
So what's a good option that is cheaper than granite?

Is concrete really that much cheaper if you pay to have it fabricated and installed?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:50 am to
Interesting article. Most granite companies seal counters after installing just to be safe. It is not a long or expensive process.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28164 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:54 am to
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Most granite companies seal counters after installing just to be safe. It is not a long or expensive process.


Agreed, but most times it's a waste.

The stone, in a lot of cases, is not going to absorb the chemical.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:57 am to
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Agreed, but most times it's a waste.

The stone, in a lot of cases, is not going to absorb the chemical.


Been in my house 10 years and never sealed anything. They look the same way they did when I moved in, and I've spilt all sorts of stuff on them.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10265 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:00 am to
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What does the OT have then if granite is now trashy?



Quartzite
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25737 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:07 am to
Quartize/Quartz are very nice but the options are limited and it is very expensive compared to granite. For an island it is a great option but when you need 4 or 6 slabs, the price tag can become crazy. This is my experience from buying from a stone yard this year.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Quartize/Quartz are very nice but the options are limited and it is very expensive compared to granite. For an island it is a great option but when you need 4 or 6 slabs, the price tag can become crazy. This is my experience from buying from a stone yard this year.



I thought they were almost identical in pricing to higher end granite options?
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