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re: Girlfriend of Minnesota victim with new video.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:32 pm to tigerskin
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:32 pm to tigerskin
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The victim reaches for a wallet and while doing so remembers to tell the cop he has a gun.
Yep after watching that video sounds like the guy waited until he was digging in his back pocket to tell the officer he had a permit and a gun. The officer freaked out and shoot. It was a bad situation, and I have a feeling the cop will face some charges for this.
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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Bottom line, most police shootings end up being justified.
That may be the legal result, but we both know that's not because they are exonerated in court. It's because most DA's don't like charging the police they rely on for convictions. It's an inherent conflict of interest.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:38 pm to civiltiger07
telling the officer of a gun while reaching is not proper POcedure.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:39 pm to tigerskin
Call me what you want, but I don't believe a word that comes out of this woman's mouth. "Machine guns at her back." Ok, yea, right.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:40 pm to Chad504boy
not arguing that
He absolutely messed up as well
ETA: just looking at what we have on this situation at this moment. Was the cop wearing a body cam?
He absolutely messed up as well
ETA: just looking at what we have on this situation at this moment. Was the cop wearing a body cam?
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:40 pm to Pax Regis
I won't rush to a judgment until the fact come out. What a terrible situation.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:41 pm to NYNolaguy1
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That may be the legal result, but we both know that's not because they are exonerated in court. It's because most DA's don't like charging the police they rely on for convictions. It's an inherent conflict of interest.
It also doesn't hurt that the system bails out risky behavior because the threshold for "fear for your life" is so low. I'm not suggest cops are out there trying to decimate civilians, but human nature will give you the necessary bravado to take on risky situations when you can be bailed out by shooting the suspect if it goes wrong.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:42 pm to civiltiger07
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Yep after watching that video sounds like the guy waited until he was digging in his back pocket to tell the officer he had a permit and a gun. The officer freaked out and shoot. It was a bad situation, and I have a feeling the cop will face some charges for this.
that's not what it sounds like.
that's what you are assuming, and you don't have enough information to make any rational assumption.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:43 pm to civiltiger07
quote:got knocked off when he disengaged his seatbelt getting out vehicle.
Was the cop wearing a body cam?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:43 pm to TeddyPadillac
She has now said it 3 times. Once during live video and twice during this video
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:44 pm to TeddyPadillac
uh yea that is what it sounds like as the woman said "he reached for his ID and said I have a permit and firearm". I understand this is only one side of the story.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:45 pm to civiltiger07
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guy waited until he was digging in his back pocket to tell the officer he had a permit and a gun
Im curious of these words. Did he say " By the way officer. I am licensed to carry a gun and have one on me" or while reaching behind him say " I gots me a gun to ya herd". Obviously Im being sarcastic but her description of what was said and done and the results don't match up real well.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:45 pm to Pax Regis
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Call me what you want, but I don't believe a word that comes out of this woman's mouth. "Machine guns at her back." Ok, yea, right.
Yeah, obviously she's a liar and making up the entire story because she doesn't know the difference between long guns.
What a ridiculous thing to hold on to given both of her videos.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:46 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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her description of what was said and done and the results don't match up real well.
To be fair, they don't match up real well because you're assuming the officer was calm and in line. If you open yourself up to the possibility that the officer could be at fault then her story is much more plausible.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:47 pm to BigDawg0420
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You can tell from the tone of his voice in the first video that the cop knew he f'd up. If it really went down like the girlfriend said (highly unlikely) then I have no problem with him getting charged.
So you know the guy and how is tone usually is? You realize that most likely the Cop thought that the guy was about to pull a gun on him, that the Cop thought his life was on the line, and then he had to just shoot a guy he thought was going to shoot him?
The cop thought he was about to get shot. You can't argue that. I'll agree that maybe the cop reacted too quickly and therefore killed someone that did not need to even be shot.
At the same time, if I'm carrying a gun and I get pulled over I take my wallet and ID out and put them on the dash. Then I take my gun out and put it in the glove box or back seat. The last thing anyone wants to do is have an up front conversation with someone while they are armed.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:48 pm to slackster
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Yeah, obviously she's a liar and making up the entire story because she doesn't know the difference between long guns.
if she doesn't know what she's talking about then she probably just needs to shut the frick up then.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:49 pm to piggilicious
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if she doesn't know what she's talking about then she probably just needs to shut the frick up then.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:50 pm to tigerskin
Lisssaannn
Lisssaannn
God damn that dude is annoying. Why does he just keep yelling that?
Lisssaannn
God damn that dude is annoying. Why does he just keep yelling that?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:52 pm to Displaced
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Why does he just keep yelling that?
he was sub redditing out loud.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 1:54 pm to slackster
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Yeah, obviously she's a liar and making up the entire story because she doesn't know the difference between long guns.
Has nothing to do with difference and everything to do with exaggeration.
No different than calling police terrorists or calling questionable shootings executions. All it does is make people ignore you.
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