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Food stamps for felons.....but let's cut TOPS
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:14 pm
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:15 pm to choupiquesushi
Does anyone have any sort of stats that Tops even works for keeping the brains in state?
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:17 pm to choupiquesushi
Not that I agree with Food Stamps for Felons, but I think the whole program is financed with federal dollars and not State General Funds. That's not to say that the Food Stamp Program needs to be reigned in because it does.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:18 pm to choupiquesushi
Devils advocate: How easy is it for felons to find work?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:19 pm to choupiquesushi
I'm assuming all you TOPS advocates were big supporters of Bernie's free college idea and didn't ridicule it or use it as a means to call him a communist.
Right?
Right?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:21 pm to Bmath
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Devils advocate: How easy is it for felons to find work?
Its actually not that hard to just find work, but that's going to be shoveling shite, cleaning toilets, laying bricks, roofing, etc.
The problem is most of them went to prison because they didn't want to do real work in the first place to earn a living.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:22 pm to Jcorye1
The release a report every year with said evidence. It's been pretty impressive relative to its goals. If we had someone with vision to leverage it, we could probably move the state significantly forward.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:22 pm to choupiquesushi
The only food they should get is Soylent green
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:22 pm to choupiquesushi
People better wake up
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:24 pm to Bmath
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Devils advocate: How easy is it for felons to find work?
I know that when you got out of Shawshank, they had a job bagging groceries waiting for you.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:25 pm to baldona
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Its actually not that hard to just find work, but that's going to be shoveling shite, cleaning toilets, laying bricks, roofing, etc. They didn't want to work in the first place
You do realize you could become a felon tomorrow by not pulling over fast enough when a cop on a bad day is lighting you up for a blinker being out that you were unaware of.
Judge not
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:25 pm to choupiquesushi
I wouldnt agree with a law that bans food stamps for drug felons. Really? Most drug felons shouldnt have spent a day in jail.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:25 pm to magildachunks
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I'm assuming all you TOPS advocates were big supporters of Bernie's free college idea and didn't ridicule it or use it as a means to call him a communist.
I didn't support Bernie's vision because he wanted to do it on the federal level, which I see as beyond Congress's enumerated powers as vested in Congress by Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. If states wish to pay for free college for their citizens, I have no qualms with that as long as it is done in a responsible, reasonably efficient manner.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:26 pm to choupiquesushi
TOPS is not a needs based program. Not a good comparison
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:26 pm to baldona
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The problem is most of them went to prison because they didn't want to do real work in the first place to earn a living.
What about 75% that are not included in your stereotype?
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:27 pm to kingbob
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If states wish to pay for free college for their citizens, I have no qualms with that as long as it is done in a responsible, reasonably efficient manner.
Unlike TOPS.
Time to trim the fat and cut programs we can't afford
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:27 pm to choupiquesushi
Don't inmates have free access to college programs while in prison?I heard that @ some point just curious about the veracity of it
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:30 pm to Jcorye1
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Does anyone have any sort of stats that Tops even works for keeping the brains in state?
I know giving food stamps to felons keeps them in state
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:31 pm to DrunkerThanThou
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Don't inmates have free access to college programs while in prison?I heard that @ some point just curious about the veracity of it
Yeah, but with a felony, it is 50x more difficult to get a job when you get out. This is why most drug felonies should be abolished. It hurts the communities the most.
Violent crimes are what we should be focusing on.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:32 pm to Bmath
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Devils advocate: How easy is it for felons to find work?
I've worked with plenty of felons over the years... the answer is pretty damn easy
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