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re: Facebook is a government spying operation

Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:13 am to
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19656 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:13 am to
If you are just figuring out that the government knows what you are doing and where you are at all times then I can't help ya. Social media is old news, your cellphone gives them all the info they need now. With the exception of throwing it in a river there is no way to keep it from transmitting data on you. That includes having it turned off or pulling the SIM card.
Posted by poptart_1225
Livingston parish
Member since Mar 2018
50 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:17 am to
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How many peoples lives have been ruined because the wrong person had access?


Exactly. Please tell me if you know someone who has been effected by this? Someone who was just living life. Not bothering anyone. Not digging into shite they shouldn't have been in. Not breaking any laws. I know no one in my life has been effected by this. Do you?
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:19 am to
Hate to break it to you cupcake, but the MSM started the fake news movement in an attempt to discredit new media outlets they disagreed with. And a preemptive attack on the leaks that were about to be published at WikiLeaks.

You are the perfect example of how that works on low information citizens.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:22 am to
I don't social media at all...well..I do have a LinkedIn I never post on or look at....and this thing here which is anonymous...and my life is grand...

I don't understand the fascination and the need some have of posting their random crap thoughts and what they had for dinner...on the internet.

I don't know about government surveillance but I don't need to worry about it...

put down your phones people.

(I post on TD.com on a gov't computer...hehe)

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36348 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:25 am to
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Nothing you put on the internet is private. 

I'm astonished at the amount of people that do not realize this. 

OP shouldn't be chastised for bringing up his concerns about tech companies and the creep towards totalitarianism. Unlike many, I see companies like Facebook and Google as evil. They have colluded to such a degree with the NSA prior to the Edward Snowden leaks that I consider them nothing more than an arm of our massive surveillance state, just as private defense contractors are an arm of the military industrial complex.

The idea that the state has the power to track every citizen and access their web and consumer history at the mere click of a button should worry us all, regardless of whether or not they're actually doing it. And Facebook and Google have mastered the art of appearing trendy, liberal and cool to young people, while enabling and assisting some of the most illiberal and authoritarian agencies within our government.

No one, and I mean no one, should be mocked for trying to protect our privacy.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 7:27 am
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:28 am to
If it's true, the easiest spy op in history. People post EVERYTHING to Facebook.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
3915 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:30 am to
Except for they didn’t say Lickitty Splits data from this day and time. So everybody that was in that area is now a subject to that investigation based solely on being in the vicinity of a crime, nothing more. Do you believe that’s a search you shouldn’t be protected from? There’s zero reason for the government to be able to ask for this information. It’s too broad. Additionally, law enforcement oftentimes request this information without a warrant.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83664 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:30 am to
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No one, and I mean no one, should be mocked for trying to protect our privacy.


I'm not mocking him. I'm just astonished people didn't realize these companies were data mining everything you do.

How do they think targeted ads work?

And I worry less about the privacy issue, and more about the ability to be manipulated. We are just now seeing the beginnings of these huge campaigns to manipulate people with fake news. It is only going to get worse and less easy to identify in the future.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51482 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:33 am to
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I'm not mocking him. I'm just astonished people didn't realize these companies were data mining everything you do.

How do they think targeted ads work?

And I worry less about the privacy issue, and more about the ability to be manipulated. We are just now seeing the beginnings of these huge campaigns to manipulate people with fake news. It is only going to get worse and less easy to identify in the future.


Good post.

Fake news on social media is a HUGE issue.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5538 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:34 am to
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:37 am to
Facebook was "weaponized" to help Trump win the election. By all accounts it was quite effective as people believed and still believe much of the garbage passed around (mostly false attacks on Clinton - pizzagate, Seth whatever his name is whose parents are now suing fox news for promoting false stories, etc). Seems a significant number of people are having some difficulty recognizing bullshite.

So as to avoid a populace influenced by both dishonest domestic (fox news) and foreign actors (russia) disinformation on Facebook is being cracked down on.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 7:40 am
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
156083 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:38 am to
You need to calm down.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21659 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:40 am to
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Facebook is a government spying operation

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It looks like it at least started in 2011 during Obama’s presidential campaign


So, Obama started it! I knew it!

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would you delete your Facebook account or other social media accounts?


What good will it do as long as those chemtrails are still around?

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do you feel comfortable knowing that you’ll never know if someone is watching you through your electronic devices?


I am often "pretty damn comfortable" (if you know what I mean) when I'm on my computer at home. Unfortunately, they won't be very impressed.

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all your searches on google and yahoo and the like are cached and catalogued and sold to third parties and provided to the government.


Not sure why the government would be interested in my searches. I doubt I've found any "unique" style of porn that 50 million other people haven't found.

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DuckDuckGo


The game is Duck Duck Goose, dumbass!

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Does anyone have any other reasonable solutions to avoid living in this constant surveillance state?



No, I guess that makes me some sort of exhibitionist?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24750 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:41 am to
I knew it. Mine's been acting all fricky lately.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36348 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:42 am to
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So as to avoid a populace influenced by both dishonest domestic (fox news) and foreign actors (russia) disinformation on Facebook is being cracked down on. 

There is almost zero news in America. MSNBC and CNN are no different from Fox. Fake news didn't begin with Facebook. It began when news outlets traded reporting the news for opinion punditry that masquerades as fact. It continues with news media blackouts and self-censorship of news stories that challenge American political orthodoxies. There is a reason why Americans are the least politically informed public in the Western world.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119833 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:45 am to
I still haven't figured out why men feel the need to be on facebook.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:46 am to
I disagree. IMO, no news network is in Fox's league. Fox is frankly not a news network at all. It is propaganda.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83664 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:48 am to
FB has its uses.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:49 am to
I just think it's funny that people are surprised by this
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72334 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 7:52 am to
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I disagree. IMO, no news network is in Fox's league. Fox is frankly not a news network at all. It is propaganda.
Scruffy disagrees. You just happen to agree with one side’s stance (CNN, MSNBC) and don’t view it as propaganda.
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