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re: Etiquette for turning down job after accepting?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:15 pm to tigercross
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:15 pm to tigercross
If he accepted my offer and then came back with a counter from the old job I'd say, "good luck".
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:19 pm to TigerFanInSoCal
Just be honest. This situation is very common.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:21 pm to TigerFanInSoCal
Leverage was just thrown at you.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:25 pm to TigerFanInSoCal
McDonald's won't care if you go to Taco Bell
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:27 pm to 12
I think this is always a very bad idea. You not only risk angering the new employer, but you may plant the seed in your current employer's mind that your loyalty may not be strong. Yes, business is business in the end, bit the employee doesn't always have all the leverage, even in a situation like this.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:30 pm to jdd48
You already agreed to an offer with the new company. It's in bad taste to try and renegotiate after accepting their offer. Either stay or go to new company but don try to renegotiate, I'd let someone walk if they tried it with me.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:42 pm to RummelTiger
quote:98% of people who post this kind of info don't provide a link to support it.
93% of people who accept counters leave within a year.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:20 am to SEClint
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Leverage was just thrown at you.
Financial leverage. Leveraging human capital, i.e. alienating as few parties as possible, will be more valuable in the long run.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:21 am to DLauw
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You hold all the cards my boy. Don't back out of the new offer see if they'll offer more!
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:10 am to TigerFanInSoCal
Never, EVER accept the counter offer.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:13 am to Tiger Ryno
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They never trust you again there
Not only that, but ask yourself this: if it took the threat of your leaving to get them to pay you, how much do they REALLY respect you? Also, if you accept the counter, they own you. You actually lose in that situation.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:16 am to TigerFanInSoCal
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Problem is, most people I know in that office have told me the money is great but most people aren't happy. I know I might be happier with the other job but damn it's tough to walk away from that kind of money.
Trust me on this: you can't put a price tag on happiness at a job.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:21 am to TigerFanInSoCal
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It would be about 30% more staying with my original company. Problem is, most people I know in that office have told me the money is great but most people aren't happy. I know I might be happier with the other job but damn it's tough to walk away from that kind of money.
Don't do it for that reason then. More money will not make you overlook the red flags of the job as time goes on. Your best bet is to go with the new position and the 30% will come. Been in your situation and the money was great at first, but as time went on I remembered why I was looking elsewhere to begin with.
Good luck, but look at the aspects of the work you will be doing, the location, the managers you report to, upward mobility, strength of the companies, benefits, etc. If the new job wins in more categories forget the extra cash.
eta: Do not try to leverage your new employer to increase the wage because of the counter. If you are good the pay will come in due time.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 5:24 am
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:25 am to Damn Good Dawg
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Funny how the one gig you want always ends up coming to fruition after you said frick it and agreed to the other one
Happened to me a week ago. Had already accepted a job, when the company I was initially interested in called me up. I told the HR lady I had already accpected another position, she was very understanding and told me sorry the company dropped the ball and took too long to contact me.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:37 am to Sophandros
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Not only that, but ask yourself this: if it took the threat of your leaving to get them to pay you, how much do they REALLY respect you? Also, if you accept the counter, they own you. You actually lose in that situation.
exactly. They didnt make a counter offer because they like you or they value you. They did it because a cost benefit analysis shows that paying you more money not to go, saves them time and money from having to hire a new person and train them.
If they really valued and respected you they would have put in the effort to relocate you when you asked. Not when it looked like they were going to lose money
TL;DR, I would leave the current company
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 6:38 am
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:39 am to TigerFanInSoCal
What is the etiquette when a company decides it no longer needs your services, or changes its mind?
Do they give you 2 weeks notice? Send a thank you letter?
I give them the exact same consideration they'd give me.
And that's that.
Do they give you 2 weeks notice? Send a thank you letter?
I give them the exact same consideration they'd give me.
And that's that.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:54 am to TigerFanInSoCal
Is your wife nagging you about this?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:08 am to TigerStripes06
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HR: the perpetual thorn in the side of people that actually work for a living.
Nothing makes an HR person happier than firing the person that forced a counter offer.
Go to the new job because working for a company that undervalued you for years cannot be rectified with more money in the future.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:13 am to TH03
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you mean you need a way to back out of your word and frick the new company over?
Money talks and bullshite walks.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:19 am to TigerFanInSoCal
i'm all for an employee getting everything they can, but i've really only ever seen accepting the counter offer work out long term for 1 person, and that's because fundamental differences in their career path were resolved in the counter.
--you are undervalued by your current employer
--you are being thrown a bone to benefit them, not you
--the transfer you are being offered is to an office that apparently is not a very "happy" place to work.
--why were you asking for this transfer in the first place?
--it would seem you're getting what you asked for, but is what you asked for really what you want? especially from a work-life balance POV
--there is a repuation component to this, but it's highly dependent on industry, company culture, and position, so i don't know how much of a big deal this would be in the long run
good luck!
--you are undervalued by your current employer
--you are being thrown a bone to benefit them, not you
--the transfer you are being offered is to an office that apparently is not a very "happy" place to work.
--why were you asking for this transfer in the first place?
--it would seem you're getting what you asked for, but is what you asked for really what you want? especially from a work-life balance POV
--there is a repuation component to this, but it's highly dependent on industry, company culture, and position, so i don't know how much of a big deal this would be in the long run
good luck!
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 7:21 am
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