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Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1847 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:43 pm to
Definitely watch the 60 minutes episode on lumber liquidators laminate flooring that just finished its showing this evening. Possible crap flooring products from China. Wasn't it Chinese drywall that caused problems on homes rebuilt after Katrina ?
Posted by WoodCrafter
Member since Jan 2010
687 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:45 pm to
Engineered Wood is not wood.
Bamboo is not wood, it is a grass, and it makes a good floor.
If you want cheap the go with oak.
Posted by clickboom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2012
208 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:54 pm to
Engineered is only way to go in Louisiana on a slab. It is designed to handle the natural side to side movement the wood tends to have and it holds up to moisture a lot better than solid wood. Lumber Liquidators is just that a liquidation outlet carrying stuff that other company's are getting rid of. Yes they have good prices, however once it is gone it is gone. Hickory/pecan are the hardest American species and hold up tremendously well. If you get a handscraped wood and it gets a scratch or gouge you can easily color it with a min wax marker and it just adds more character to the floor. I would steer clear of a birch species as they are pretty soft and have a tendency to dent easier than most. Contrary to popular belief ANY floor will scratch. Earthwerks, Regal, Bella Cera, Armstrong, Mannington, Shaw, Mohawk are all reputable brands that have some really nice floors.
Posted by Rev1897
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
782 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

Engineered Wood is not wood.
Bamboo is not wood, it is a grass, and it makes a good floor.
If you want cheap the go with oak


So your opinion is that Bamboo is better than Engineered wood, but that you do not believe it's better than cheap hardwood? Because I've heard different, that cheap hardwood will warp and, especially in LA, it's better to go with a bamboo or Engineered.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28164 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:57 pm to
Definitive post and mirrors my research.
Posted by clickboom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2012
208 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:59 pm to
Engineered wood is most definitely wood. All the way down to the core unless you buy one that has an HDF core. The top layer of engineered wood is either rotary peeled, offset rotary peeled, face sawn, or rift and quartered.
Posted by LSUEEAlum
Member since Oct 2013
798 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 7:09 pm to
Just built a house in 2013. Half the house is travertine and the other half is engineered wood. I chose hickory because it's harder and less likely to get damaged. Builder told me pine was the in thing but with kids and a dog I went with a harder wood. Also went with hand scraped. Floor still looks great after a year and a half. The floor we chose was lock and go.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 7:13 pm to
Has anyone posting never heard of applying a thick coat of 'Gym Coat' over solid wood flooring? It protects the wood for many, many years. If applied correctly (which isn't hard at all) you will more than likely never had to refinish your solid wood floors.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34126 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 7:22 pm to
I have tile that looks like wood. The missus picked it out. I have a friend that is a damn good carpenter and he thought it was wood at first glance. Actually bent down to feel the tile.
Posted by clickboom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2012
208 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 7:30 pm to
The wood tile is a good option, however it is hard and extremely cold. It has to be installed a certain way due to the natural bow in tiles over 18" or you will have a lot of lippage. My parents wanted to put tile through their entire house even after I told them not to and they regret it. While it looks good it is hard on their feet and cold too. Something to consider.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42563 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 8:18 pm to
My boxer destroyed our engineered floors. The actual hardwood layers is so thin, I am not sure you could actually resurface it, even though they say you can. Wish we would have just stained the concrete.
Posted by DieSmilen
My Rubbermaid Desk
Member since Dec 2007
1731 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 8:41 pm to
I agree that the porcilean is hard on your feet but I really find its not that cold. It may be because ours has the wood scrap look so it's not flush. I am in South Louisiana, so I am not sure how it would work in the northern states.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 9:06 pm to
I put down cheap laminate in our starter house. Our year old lab never put a scratch in it. Now we moved up in house and this one came with engineered wood. House is only 3 years old. Our dog really hadn't caused any damage as she's calmed down, but you can see marks from the previous owners everywhere. I will not put it back down if I ever have to change this floor. Either wood tile or real wood. Could just be cheap engineered wood, but I've gotten a bad taste for it after seeing this.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8509 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 9:09 pm to
Crescent Hardwood Collection

Distributed out of Metairie. We've had the Marigny Plank engineered floors in our house for 4-5 years and have really enjoyed them. They're a little distressed already, so you won't notice scratches as much.

Brazilian Walnut FTW.
Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 9:14 pm to
do not put solid wood on a slab. Engineered wood can be glued down or floated over a dense liner. also, choose an engineered which is hard to avoid dents from fat chicks with high heels.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 9:44 pm to
We just laid down 1200 sqft of hand scraped bamboo in a home we're selling. It was something like $3.50 /sqft and it loOKs amazing.
This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 9:48 pm
Posted by clickboom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2012
208 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 9:49 pm to
Unfortunately the chick doesn't have to be fat to dent it. A 100lb woman has over 1600psi in her high heels when she takes a step. That is more than an elephants foot print. So the heftier the woman the more damage. 200lber could sink a boat.
Posted by clickboom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2012
208 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:00 pm to
Im not going to get in a keyboard pissing match about bamboo flooring. However a lot of distributors have gotten rid of their bamboo lines because of the amount of problems. The previous distributor and current distributor I work for both dropped their bamboo lines. Here is a good article on bamboo and the problems with it. I'm glad people on here have had good luck with it because it is a hellish nightmare for a lot of people.


LINK
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17695 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:21 pm to
1 stay away from bamboo its a liability not an improvement
2 slab do not let them put any type of flooring on the concrete for 90 days after it was poured & DO NOT let the flooring contractor charge you for a leveling agent that bill goes to the concrete guy.
3 hardness of the wood is relative to the finish, you can get maple floors but if it has shite for finish you have wasted your money
4 look at brands that offer a warranty & installed properly, trust me diy network may make it look simple to install some flooring products but if you have a warranty claim I can guarantee you that if the floor failed it was the installer not the product. if you can't afford a quality floor engineered or solid look at LVT &
stay away from lumber liquidators.
5 yes you can put hardwoods on a concrete slab there are incredible adhesives & moisture barriers out now That are tested & guaranteed.
6 wood will move gaps will show up in the winter close up in the warmers months
7 doing it right the first time is cheaper than doing it wrong & fixing the problem. $$$

This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 10:27 pm
Posted by lsualum01
Member since Sep 2008
1755 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:52 pm to
I bought hill country andalusia series engineered hardwood. Eventhough it is oak, which has a midlevel janka score, it has held up well to my young child and 80 pound lab. The finish is matte or low gloss and is relatively light, so the scratches that are there are not very noticable. Years after the kids are grown and dog is out the house, I plan to get it refinished and have no reason to think it wont last for a long time. Either way, good luck. Do your research and hire a reputable contractor even if it cost a little more. It may save you a lot of money and headache in the long run.
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