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re: Drone Video Shows The Horrifying Scale Of The Volkswagen Buyback
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:12 pm to Street Hawk
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:12 pm to Street Hawk
The Silverdome looks just as abandoned as those cars.
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:13 pm to East Coast Band
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At least that parking lot is getting used for something.
I'm sure they will eventually expect those cars to be disposed of somehow. I'm not sure how exactly.
Could they sell them in Mexico or Columbia?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:14 pm to CAD703X
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i'm as disgusted with environmental overreach as everyone else but this is SOLELY ON VW for cheating/lying.
I agree in relation to the initial consumer, but those cars should be made available, maybe sold as salvage vehicles or donated vehicles. To have them wasted or deported is asinine.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:15 pm to NYCAuburn
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but those cars should be made available, maybe sold as salvage vehicles or donated vehicles. To have them wasted or deported is asinine.
and i agree with this as well.
punish VW however you want but the cars shouldn't have been just allowed to sit and rot.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:19 pm to NYCAuburn
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i'm as disgusted with environmental overreach as everyone else but this is SOLELY ON VW for cheating/lying.
I agree. And IMO VW should face the costs of conditioning them as a parts source, exporting them, or destroying them.
Letting them sit in a parking lot is just contributing to an eyesore and it is sort of creating a monument to VW's dishonesty. I'm more angry at VW for cheating than I am for how/why they cheated. The rules may be stupid but not following them to gain a massive competitive advantage probably resulted in a lot of product desicions at Toyota, GM, or Ford that involved keeping their diesel cars out of the US.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:23 pm to goofball
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The Silverdome looks just as abandoned as those cars.
I thought they tore that place down years ago.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:32 pm to Street Hawk
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It’s nuts to think about.
Not really.
Thousands and thousands of cars sit in junkyards all over the world.
So do planes, and boats.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:49 pm to goofball
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conditioning them as a parts source, exporting them, or destroying them.
what a waste of money. sell them as is or donate them, there is no need to put any money into them. Their emissions are not that bad.
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competitive advantage probably resulted in a lot of product desicions at Toyota, GM, or Ford that involved keeping their diesel cars out of the US.
The only decisions from competitors to keep diesels out of US would be either market viability/cost or EPA, most of the time it's the EPA
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:50 pm to NYCAuburn
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I agree in relation to the initial consumer, but those cars should be made available, maybe sold as salvage vehicles or donated vehicles
Not sure how many cars in total but that would probably have a negative impact of the used car market. Flooding the market with that many cheap used cars would certainly hurt somebody.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:52 pm to Street Hawk
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abandoned Pontiac Silverdome
Was gonna say this looks like parking for a fb game. What happened to the roof?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:53 pm to NYNolaguy1
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The easy solution here is just to sell them used in Central America or Mexico, or some country where they don't care, or can be paid off.
They can't. It's part of their agreement.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:55 pm to BigPerm30
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I was expected to be blown away by your title. I'm very underwhelmed. It's not that many cars even if you multiply it by four or five times.
This
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:11 pm to barry
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They can't. It's part of their agreement.
Who is the agreement between?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 3:05 pm to The Mick
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Hard to imagine VW couldn't just get these cars up to code and resell them.
They will. Every owner has the option of taking a $5K check and allowing VW to install the fix. The problem is that the fix hasn't been approved by the EPA yet and many don't want to risk getting stuck with a "fixed" car that now has no power and bad gas mileage.
My bet is they apply the fix to all of these cars and resell them outside of the country. (The EPA won't let them just sell them outside the country "as is")
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 3:44 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Who is the agreement between?
Between the government and VW. I asked the woman when we turned ours in. VW reached a settlement with the government which stated they had to buy back vehicles, or "fix" them. The bought back vehicles could not be sold as is even to other countries that do not have as strict regulation. They can fix the issue and sell them, or use them for parts.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:36 pm to SlackMaster
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many don't want to risk getting stuck with a "fixed" car that now has no power and bad gas mileag
not to mention getting pretty much what they paid for the car back after putting thousands of miles on it?
only a COMPLETE IDIOT wouldn't take the cash.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:44 pm to Street Hawk
Compared to the number of cars scrapped in a given year this is totally insignificant. One of the companies that scrap cars that have been totaled by insurance companies processes 14,000 cars per month at their Houston facility, they have 150 locations in the U.S., and that is just one of several companies that doe this type work. The environmental impact will be nil, when cars go to scrap the tires, battery, aluminum wheels if equipped, and catalytic convertor are removed and recycled individually, the rest of the car is crushed , shredded, and recycled into raw steel for manufacturing more cars.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:50 pm to EA6B
While the situation sucks, they CAN'T just let it slide. They had to make an example of VW otherwise every other maker would do the same.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:52 pm to Street Hawk
Nothing about this is horrifying
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:52 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:Seems like plan to me. TBH Im not sure that three is anything wrong with these cars other than the Obama over-regulation.
The easy solution here is just to sell them used in Central America or Mexico, or some country where they don't care, or can be paid off.
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