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re: Does Anyone Have Any Unique Stories About Land Disputes?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:39 am to Barrister
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:39 am to Barrister
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A New Orleans lawyer sought an FHA loan for a client. He was told the loan would be granted if he could prove satisfactory title to a parcel of property being offered as collateral. The title to the property dated back to 1803, which took the lawyer three months to track down. After sending the information to the FHA, he received the following reply:
Upon review of your letter adjoining your client's loan application, we note that the request is supported by an Abstract of Title. While we compliment the able manner in which you have prepared and presented the application, we must point out that you have only cleared title to the proposed collateral back to 1803. Before final approval can be accorded, it will be necessary to clear the title back to its origin.
The lawyer responded as follows:
Your letter regarding title in Case No. 189156 has been received. I note that you wish to have title extended further than the 194 years covered by the present application.
I was unaware that any educated person in this country, particularly those working with real property titles, would not know that Louisiana was purchased by the United States from France in 1803, the year of origin identified in our Abstract of Title. For your edification, I should explain that title to the land in question was acquired by the United States by purchase from France, which had acquired it by right of conquest from Spain. Title to the land had come to Spain by right of discovery made in the year 1492 by a sea captain named Christopher Columbus, who had been granted the privilege of seeking a new route to India by the then reigning monarch of Spain, Queen Isabella. The good queen, being a pious woman and careful about titles, had taken the precaution of securing the blessing of the Pope before she sold her jewels to fund Columbus' expedition. The Pope is the emissary of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. And God created Louisiana.
Now, may we have our damn loan?
Amusing story.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 10:40 am
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:46 am to colorchangintiger
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I can't remember the specifics, but I know a family that bought land that was locked by water and some Stream family owned land. The Streams were trying to buy the parcel themselves, but were waiting out the owner to come down in price. From what I understand, Louisiana law dictates that you must provide a right of way in this situation. Well, the Streams were pissed that the land was bought out from underneath them (in their minds) so they have tied up allowing the right of way in court going on 15 years now. There has even been some vandalism on the property such as a tractor set on fire that has been tied to the Stream family.
So basically this family wanted to buy some land, but instead of buying it at the original price they waited for the price to drop,however; in the meantime someone else bought it so they caused a huge ordeal because someone ponied up before they did? They sound like some self-righteous pricks.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:58 am to OweO
Alright here is my current issue. I moved onto some property about 5 years ago. I'm pretty sure my neighbor is racist. As soon as he saw my wife he began clearing the property line we share to erect a fence. This property was semi-cleared... They had probably 100 wrist to thigh thick trees... We share about a 700' border. So I'm coming out to the property every few days to do work, and I'm noticing this guy has come and cut the trees on my side of the property about 5' in, all the way down the line. Dozens of small stumps.
I let it slide and forgot about it honestly. Well I'm clearing the land a few weeks back and boom blam, I run over a stump as I near the fence. Really bad for my lawnmower.
Now I'm remembering this dude cut my trees and left dozens of stumps on my side.
Jesus says love your neighbor but Lord knows I'm so tempted to roll up with a stump grinder about 530 am on a saturday.
Wwtotd
I let it slide and forgot about it honestly. Well I'm clearing the land a few weeks back and boom blam, I run over a stump as I near the fence. Really bad for my lawnmower.
Now I'm remembering this dude cut my trees and left dozens of stumps on my side.
Jesus says love your neighbor but Lord knows I'm so tempted to roll up with a stump grinder about 530 am on a saturday.
Wwtotd
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 11:03 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:07 am to OweO
Read any Louisiana Property course treatise. It's sad. Seemingly normal families going apeshit over a fricking lamp.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:14 am to OweO
I know a family who owns marsh property in the middle of absolute nowhere in Vermilion Parish. Unbeknownst the them, they had a "Cajun" squatter who built and lived on 2 acres for over 30 years in a wooden shack, no electricity, no water, etc. Fast forward, old dude who speaks only French got the 2 acres thru some sort of "squatters rights" law.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:20 am to OweO
We had a very long drawn out dispute with our neighbor about our joint property line about 6 years ago. I had found 3 of the 4 stakes that marked our property (little over an acre), but couldn't find the third. After some redneck surveying with a 100' tape measure and a copy of the plat I figured up within 2-3' where the third marker should be, which put about 10 feet between their house and the line. Which of course they said there was 20'. They argued and argued, pissed and moaned, cops called out twice so on and so forth until they finally agreed to pay for half of the re-survey.
I contacted the same company that originally completed the survey and they came out and marked the lines for both my property and my neighbors.
After the survey was complete it was found that they only had 5'7" between their house and the property line. Not only that, but the person on the other side of them had erected a fence that was 20 or so feet on their line.
So, now we have a fence on the line and they are collecting some type of payment from their other neighbors for use of their land.
Pays to check things out before hand.
I contacted the same company that originally completed the survey and they came out and marked the lines for both my property and my neighbors.
After the survey was complete it was found that they only had 5'7" between their house and the property line. Not only that, but the person on the other side of them had erected a fence that was 20 or so feet on their line.
So, now we have a fence on the line and they are collecting some type of payment from their other neighbors for use of their land.
Pays to check things out before hand.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:26 am to Count Chocula
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Fast forward, old dude who speaks only French got the 2 acres thru some sort of "squatters rights" law.
It's called acquisitive prescription and it's a tenet of Louisiana property law.
As to the OP: I've got/heard a lot but probably the best comes from my FiL whose company was drilling a well on some rural land. When the drilling rigs came through the property they were greeted by a militia of cousins with shotguns who said the rig wasn't passing through unless they got paid. Turns out these were the cousins who had sold their mineral rights. Just to keep the rest of the family happy my FiL went out there with some cash
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 11:41 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:27 am to GaryMyMan
quote:It was right on the tip of my tongue... thanks!
It's called acquisitive prescription and it's a tenet of Louisiana property law.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:29 am to Count Chocula
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Unbeknownst the them, they had a "Cajun" squatter who built and lived on 2 acres for over 30 years in a wooden shack, no electricity, no water, etc. Fast forward, old dude who speaks only French got the 2 acres thru some sort of "squatters rights" law.
These cases are less than rare. I wonder how they marked the 2 acres? Bounded by water?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:34 am to SmoothOperator96
When I was in high school, my uncle bought a house next door to some family friends. He decided to plant a row of azaleas instead of building a fence along the property line and paid me to do it. Neighbor okays this. I planted 35 azaleas in some hard fricking Yazoo clay.
Family friend hires a surveyor a few days later without telling my uncle. Turns out the bushes are less than a foot over his side of the line. Makes my uncle pull them all up.
His reasoning for being such an arse was that they'd get bigger and end up being "well over 1 foot" over the line. The worst part: there were at least 30-40 yards of open lawn between this guy's house and the property line.
A few years later, the family friend ended up cheating on his wife. She took everything and sold his "dream home."
Family friend hires a surveyor a few days later without telling my uncle. Turns out the bushes are less than a foot over his side of the line. Makes my uncle pull them all up.
His reasoning for being such an arse was that they'd get bigger and end up being "well over 1 foot" over the line. The worst part: there were at least 30-40 yards of open lawn between this guy's house and the property line.
A few years later, the family friend ended up cheating on his wife. She took everything and sold his "dream home."
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:37 am to Artie Rome
quote:The property was basically a 2 acre island (Chenier) sticking out above the marsh and surrounded by thousands of acres of other marsh. Dude must have had a super high tolerance for mosquitos.
I wonder how they marked the 2 acres? Bounded by water?
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 11:38 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:39 am to OweO
My family had a land dispute with an individual that started some 16 years ago over about 4" worth of property. Basically he claimed that our fence was on his property even after we had the property surveyed several times to show that the fence was in fact on our property. The old bastard still wouldn't concede that we were on his property. We had suspected that he had gut shot a few of our cows, but could never pin it on him. After several years of near and actual scuffles with the guy it all came to a nasty head. My uncle was out setting cross ties for a new gate and it was more than the old bastard could take, seeing my uncle working on what he thought was his property. The old fella marched up to my uncle and shot him off of the tractor. Shot him in the forehead. He used a small caliber and luckily the bullet didn't penetrate the skull. The bullet traveled between the skull and scalp. Still, it knocked my uncle out and off of the tractor. The old man went back into his house and had a heart attack. He lived and was sentenced to prison where he died some years later. All over property the width of a fence post. My uncle hasn't been the same since.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:41 am to BigEdLSU
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Jesus says love your neighbor
Toughest thing to do...
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:41 am to Count Chocula
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The property was basically a 2 acre island (Chenier) sticking out above the marsh and surrounded by thousands of acres of other marsh. Dude must have had a super high tolerance for mosquitos.
That's a lot of work and perseverance for a worthless spit of land. I hope he had a Clotile to will it to.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:42 am to OweO
I remember a guy a few years ago posting on here about a land dispute. Someone was even able to locate the Google Maps screenshot of the land. Anybody remember that? Wonder what happened?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:43 am to GaryMyMan
I let a neighbor use about an acre of land that my driveway runs through but is close to his house. He cuts it and maintains it and throws parties on it. Am I setting myself up for failure? Or am I safe?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:44 am to Artie Rome
quote:No, single dude. No Marie Claire to will it to.
I hope he had a Clotile to will it to
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:46 am to Count Chocula
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squatters
I think I read on tigerdroppings about a squatter in Memphis that moved into a bank-owned mansion down the street from Fred Smith.
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Investigators say Gentry took up residence in a vacant mansion at 600 S. Shady Grove Road in 2013, put a chain around the gate and even filed “transfer of inheritance” papers with the County Register’s Office giving notice of her “rightful claim” on the home.
I read a story about scammers who find empty homes for sale, download the photos and details, and list the property for rent online. They find the new "tenant" (who signs a fake lease) and collects first and last months rent on the property before disappearing.
As much as that screws over the 'tenants', it's an even bigger problem for the homeowner in some states if the tenant actually moves in.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 11:54 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:51 am to Barrister
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A New Orleans lawyer sought an FHA loan for a client.
Fantastic. Sent to my attorney family members.
:golfclap:
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:55 am to Bill Dauterive
I have a long story about a land dispute.
My dad built a shop on what he thought was his land, the same land my grand paw had owned for 50 years. My uncle decided to sell their place so he had it surveyed. The line went through the middle of his shop so my dad bought the little strip of land. Once my uncle got a buyer he tried to get my dad to sign a bunch of papers he said was dealing with that strip of land, but the numbers did not add up so he did not sign them.
My dad decided to have his land surveyed after my uncle had already sold the land. Turns out when the state moved the highway my grand paw either bought the land or it was deeded to him by the state. This strip was 200ft wide and 300ft long it took up all of my uncle's front yard. My uncle never checked the deeds when he bought the land from my grandpaw.
I don't know how the new owners bought the land or they just hoped we would never find out about the land. My uncle's surveyor was in on it too he moved the lines so it would not look like the land was separate. It took several years of fighting in court to get all this fixed.
My dad probably would have never done anything if my uncle hadn't made him buy that small strip of land where his shop was and our neighbors hadn't been such assholes about it. The judge ruled that we split the land so my dad got another acre of land out it.
My dad built a shop on what he thought was his land, the same land my grand paw had owned for 50 years. My uncle decided to sell their place so he had it surveyed. The line went through the middle of his shop so my dad bought the little strip of land. Once my uncle got a buyer he tried to get my dad to sign a bunch of papers he said was dealing with that strip of land, but the numbers did not add up so he did not sign them.
My dad decided to have his land surveyed after my uncle had already sold the land. Turns out when the state moved the highway my grand paw either bought the land or it was deeded to him by the state. This strip was 200ft wide and 300ft long it took up all of my uncle's front yard. My uncle never checked the deeds when he bought the land from my grandpaw.
I don't know how the new owners bought the land or they just hoped we would never find out about the land. My uncle's surveyor was in on it too he moved the lines so it would not look like the land was separate. It took several years of fighting in court to get all this fixed.
My dad probably would have never done anything if my uncle hadn't made him buy that small strip of land where his shop was and our neighbors hadn't been such assholes about it. The judge ruled that we split the land so my dad got another acre of land out it.
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