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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:27 pm to Breadcrumbs
Great informative posts by the way
Thank you
Thank you
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:29 pm to Grim
People with Down syndrome have a higher tendency for a lot of different medical problems, and have a life expectancy more than a decade less than people without. Then there's the whole never being able to care for yourself completely stuff and being an extra burden on your family that they may not be able to bear. I know that may sound cruel, but the attention that they require is extensive and breaks many people.
On a personal level, they probably aren't just "incredibly joyful and seemingly care free" all the time. That is probably just a part that you have seen in very limited exposure. There are emotional development issues that come with the territory of mental disorders that include things like anxiety and depression. Individuals will obviously vary, but imagine a person with Downs who is high functioning enough to understand that he is disabled and will never be able to live a fully functional life like the people who he sees around him. Doesn't that sound horrible and frustrating?
All that sounds pretty defeatist though. Downs people have still have great lives with great accomplishments in their own way, but it is definitely an extra burden in my opinion. I guess who knows though. I do have a severely mentally handicapped cousin from a different genetic disorder who my uncle has said is the only one of his children who probably is truly happy, so what the frick do I know.
On a personal level, they probably aren't just "incredibly joyful and seemingly care free" all the time. That is probably just a part that you have seen in very limited exposure. There are emotional development issues that come with the territory of mental disorders that include things like anxiety and depression. Individuals will obviously vary, but imagine a person with Downs who is high functioning enough to understand that he is disabled and will never be able to live a fully functional life like the people who he sees around him. Doesn't that sound horrible and frustrating?
All that sounds pretty defeatist though. Downs people have still have great lives with great accomplishments in their own way, but it is definitely an extra burden in my opinion. I guess who knows though. I do have a severely mentally handicapped cousin from a different genetic disorder who my uncle has said is the only one of his children who probably is truly happy, so what the frick do I know.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:30 pm to Ed Osteen
By feel
I'm certain other senses start to compensate for weaker ones.
I'm certain other senses start to compensate for weaker ones.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:35 pm to Grim
I would say that if anything I am attempting to gain empathy for children and adults that endure conditions and diagnoses such as Down syndrome, mr, autism etc
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:10 pm to lsucoonass
Dear OT,
I just wanted to say
Its been far too long.
I just wanted to say
Its been far too long.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:11 am to OweO
That story reads a little assburgery.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 12:23 am to Grim
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But every person I've ever encountered with downs has been incredibly joyful and seemingly care free. Really makes me wonder if they're the happiest people on earth
if you've spent a significant amount of time around them, you would think differently. they have all other emotions like the rest of us, but they are more extreme because they don't manage their emotions it in the same way.
would you be happy if you couldn't drive, have trouble reading, doing math, going out and being independent? they are capable enough to know that they cannot do these things, and they can be angry, sad, and depressed about it just as you would.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:05 am to Grim
I don't think you're very educated on this subject.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:10 am to Masterag
I have a friend that has a brother with Downs. We talked about his disability several times and he said that a big problem that has'nt been mentioned yet is that he doesn't understand boundaries. For instance, whenever my friend brings a girl over to his parents house, the Downs brother gets very excited that a girl is around. Without fail, the girls is extremely nice to the kid so he immediately begins being 'best friends' with her and completely monopolizes her time as well as being way too touchy feelly with hugs and holding hands and stuff like that. It's innocent, but it makes the girls very uncomfortable around him. I can only imagine how awkward this would be for everyone involved.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:36 am to Grim
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:41 am to OweO
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This story was probably a lot more funny when I first heard it and you would have to know the guy as well for it to be even more funny, but yeah.
Never mind the funniness of it. Did it sound like a sorry that way worth a damn in your head? Because I wish I would have pulled my finger nails out rather than read that story. It sucked.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:17 am to Grim
I think your impression is dead on. Downs people don't realize they are different and have an amazing attitude and love the way we all should - unconditionally.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:23 am to Grim
It's that weird catch-22. The smarter you are, the more you realize just how messed up everything in life is. Depression rates skyrocket with intelligence.
I didn't ask to be born, and I certainly didn't sign any sort of contract to die.
The smarter you are, the more you question large portions of the social contracts that not as intelligent people take for granted.
I didn't ask to be born, and I certainly didn't sign any sort of contract to die.
The smarter you are, the more you question large portions of the social contracts that not as intelligent people take for granted.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:10 am to Grim
I watch that show "Born This Way" and while they seem to be cheerful and smiling, they are very irritable and angry majority of the time. What sucks is people treat the downs syndrome community like they are mentally retarded which they are not. They lack in some skills such as money counting, washing clothes, etc...but are fully functional human beings. I hate to say this but one of the DS kids, Sean, is a complete a-hole to people. On that note, here's one of the moms on that show that I think is pretty hot. Would you?
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 8:14 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:20 am to phutureisyic
Sure you aren't confusing Sean with Steven? He's an a-hole. His Down syndrome dx isn't as severe as the rest of the group
And yes Megan's mom is attractive, and that's probably the least attractive picture of her
And yes Megan's mom is attractive, and that's probably the least attractive picture of her
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 8:29 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:23 am to lsucoonass
It's the only decent picture I could find on the net. And yes, I mean Sean. Steven just seems like an a-hole because he broke Megan's heart. Sean is just an all around dick!
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:25 am to Grim
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incredibly joyful
This x100. I recently went on a camping trip with my daughter, other fathers and their daughters, and one of the children was a child with downs. The child changed my perspective on things. She was so damn happy it made me happy.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:27 am to phutureisyic
I think Sean is s little less of a dick now as compared to seasons 1 and 2.
Steven always seemed to be an a-hole on some level throughout the whole series.
Just my opinion of course
Steven always seemed to be an a-hole on some level throughout the whole series.
Just my opinion of course
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 8:28 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:28 am to Breadcrumbs
I agree with you completely. There are some people with downs that function at an almost completely uninhibited level. Then there are some that just cannot.
I was not saying they are mentally retarded to be mean. I was saying it because their mental development has been retarded by the genetic factors outside their control.
I was not saying they are mentally retarded to be mean. I was saying it because their mental development has been retarded by the genetic factors outside their control.
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