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Do I Have the Right to Do a Credit Card Chargeback?

Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:02 pm
I ordered a $700 item from an online retailer last week with the understanding that it would ship Ground and arrive in 4-6 business days. They instead shipped it Freight and even though I was sent tracking #'s, they do not work. I contacted the freight company and they say they have no record of this package.

I've contacted the retailer multiple times and keep getting different answers as to why the tracking #'s don't work etc but they assure me that my package is in transit. The freight company says it's not b/c they have no record of it.

This morning I went ahead and ordered the item from another retailer who uses Fedex and guarantees I'll have it Friday. So I contacted the original retailer and told them to just cancel my order as I've ordered it from another company since they couldn't figure out the issue. They have told me that they can't cancel the order as it has shipped. I told them it really hasn't shipped since no one can seem to track it and the Freight company says they don't have it. They told me to just refuse the order when it shows up.

At this point, I'm so frustrated with this company, I'd like to just contact my credit card company and have them reverse the charges. Am I within my rights to do this or do I have to wait for the package(if it ever shows up) and refuse delivery, have it sent back and then wait to be refunded?
Posted by VOLcano
Rocky Top
Member since Feb 2016
942 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:06 pm to
Your late to the Drake jackets baw

But really I think you should be safe doing a chargeback.
Posted by Freezus22
Da Boot
Member since Aug 2016
1609 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

ordered a $700 item from an online retailer last week

quote:

This morning I went ahead and ordered the item from another retailer

OT baller
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7981 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:09 pm to
I had a similar situation happen. With AMEX as long as I did not have receipt of the merchandise (aka in my hands) I could refuse the charge and AMEX would issue a charge back to the retailer along with the associated fees the retailer was responsible in paying for the chargeback.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:13 pm to
They will most likely process the charge again if you do a chargeback.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:15 pm to
Just dispute the charge. The credit card company is more interested in keeping you happy instead of a vendor.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

had a similar situation happen. With AMEX as long as I did not have receipt of the merchandise (aka in my hands) I could refuse the charge and AMEX would issue a charge back to the retailer along with the associated fees the retailer was responsible in paying for the chargeback.


I was trying to work with them as I do understand mistakes happen, but I've been getting the run around since Monday with different reps giving me different reasons for the reason the tracking #'s don't work basically blaming the Freight company. I guess they didn't think I'd contact R+L who basically said they're full of shite.

ETA: I also don't understand why they can't stop delivery (if it is out). It's 2017 and everything is computerized.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted by MamouTiger65
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Oct 2007
794 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:18 pm to
Do the charge back and refuse the order. Your card company will do the charge back. Then the company gets a period of time to appeal the chargeback. It can take a month or so before it is all settled and will depend on what the company's return/refund/shipping policies are on their website.

I used to have ecommerce sites. As long as I stuck to my posted policies, I was never successfully charged back. I also never refused a refund on a lost order.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:24 pm to
quote:


I used to have ecommerce sites. As long as I stuck to my posted policies, I was never successfully charged back. I also never refused a refund on a lost order.


This is a fairly large well known company too. They're lack of information on where my order is really surprised me. The new company I ordered from is much better customer service wise and they're much smaller.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71063 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:24 pm to
If you do a chargeback the vendor has to provide a valid tracking number. When your bank tries to verify the number and finds that it's no good, you win.
Posted by GOON
Fantasy Land
Member since Mar 2008
7399 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:42 pm to
Short answer - yes. Go for it. Hopefully you have some communications between you and the retailer and also the freight company in your email that you can use as backup if requested.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113946 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:00 pm to
Since it says it would arrive 4-6 business days, I wouldn't do anything until it is past that time and it hasn't arrived.

It seems like they should be able to realize the tracking # you have doesn't work and give you an answer from there. Obviously, it seems like something got fricked up on their end. Maybe give them a call one more time to make sure it gets worked out because you don't want to be in a situation where the company says they have not received the item back from you (although you never got it) and end up creating a bigger headache.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43107 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:00 pm to
Definitely. This is textbook chargeback
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:43 pm to
If it ever arrives, refuse delivery and return to sender. Free.

If not, yes, you can always dispute the charge with your credit card company.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:05 pm to
Was finally able to get a manager to get back to me. He apologized, said he has no idea what happened to my item and said he would credit back my card.
I'm just glad this mess is over.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5305 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:08 pm to
Need to know what you ordered to give the proper advise.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:21 pm to
Drums
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69078 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:49 pm to
you can do a chargeback but they could win.

If they can prove to their bank that the items did ship. They have to refund the money when they get the items back but they are not bound to give you your money back until they have the items.

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