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re: Constraints on the aferlife

Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:35 am to
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“No one who does good work will ever come to a bad end, either here or in the world to come.”


Are you posting that as though it were Biblical? Because it's not.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:36 am to
You're right, I do have it figured out...but not in the grand scheme of life context. Life is absurd being the central theme that separates us. How can you figure out absurdity?

In that I believe you are what you are through every action you ever take. Simple as it gets. Nothing more to think or say.
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 9:39 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:36 am to
I know it's not biblical. It's even older than that.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:38 am to
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Darth_Vader


loaded question to follow:

do you believe in evolution?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:40 am to
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loaded question to follow:

do you believe in evolution?


There's some form of evolution. Just how extensive that is, I really don't know. Nobody really does. Basically I believe that God created everything. But I'm not going to try and claim I know the recipe he used.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:42 am to
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I know it's not biblical. It's even older than that.




One is right, the other is wrong since they cannot both be true. So my point about John 14:6 still stands. Either you believe it's true or you don't.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:42 am to
I think its cool we can use science to observe some of the minute details used in creation. The wonder of creation is still unfolding every day

I think science will one day get to a point where God is accepted.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:44 am to
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Basically I believe that God created everything. But I'm not going to try and claim I know the recipe he used.


so if yes, what makes humans special? why does the kingdom of heaven belong to us instead of the rest of his creatures?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:44 am to
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One is right, the other is wrong since they cannot both be true. So my point about John 14:6 still stands. Either you believe it's true or you don't.


If you ignore all issues of context and interpretation, yes. I'm not sure why you would do that, though.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:45 am to
We were made in his image. That's more than a physical thing. We have understanding, consciousness, free-will. We don't have wisdom and understanding near to his, but compared to the other inhabitants on this planet, we are in his image.

Hope that helps?
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:48 am to
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We have understanding, consciousness, free-will


we arent the only ones. we just happen to be the highest form of intelligence on the planet at this moment in time.

FWIW, im a believer in a higher power, but i dont think religion, any religion, has it correct enough for people to follow 100%, and i certainly don't take a book written 1800-1500 years ago as anything more than symbolism. you should take ideas from religious text, not take them literally.
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 9:51 am
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:50 am to
Please give me an example of known life that functions at anywhere near the level of humans. It's kind of silly to argue that humans are not superior to animals.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:51 am to
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One is right, the other is wrong since they cannot both be true. So my point about John 14:6 still stands. Either you believe it's true or you don't.



Then I posit that the Bhagavad Gita is more likely to be the correct answer. Not only has it been a source of holy authority for longer than the New Testament, it also makes more sense in that one's actions in life outweigh one's conformation to any particular dogma.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:51 am to
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so if yes, what makes humans special? why does the kingdom of heaven belong to us instead of the rest of his creatures?


I suppose it's because we were made in the image of God.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:51 am to
see my edit/addition.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:52 am to
Believe what you want, I've seen things that leave me without doubt. Either way, glad we could keep this civil
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:52 am to
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understanding, consciousness, free-will.


Chimpanzees have more consciousness, free will, and understanding than some human children. Are they made in his image?
Posted by baytiger
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:53 am to
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It's kind of silly to argue that humans are not superior to animals.
humans are animals

it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:53 am to
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I've seen things that leave me without doubt


mind sharing?

quote:

Either way, glad we could keep this civil


ill never flat out attack anothers theology or lack of.

i enjoy this type of discussion and have always been pro history/religion board.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 9:54 am to
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Then I posit that the Bhagavad Gita is more likely to be the correct answer. Not only has it been a source of holy authority for longer than the New Testament, it also makes more sense in that one's actions in life outweigh one's conformation to any particular dogma.



so you're basing you belief in it simply because it's older and it also "makes more sense" to your admittedly feeble mind comparative to that of God?

Fair enough. Like I said, we all place a bet on John 14:6. Sooner or later we all learn if ours was the correct bet.
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