re: Constraints on the aferlife

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afertlife

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Is this something to do with fertility?

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I'm an atheist in the strictest sense of not having a theism - I neither believe in an aferlife or disbelieve in one, as there is no scientific evidence either way.

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That doesn't make you an atheist.

You're an agnostic.

Nope. Just a bunch of Methodists who don't know what their own Church teaches.

frick it. You asked a serious question so I will give you a serious start of an answer.

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I do presume that if there is an aferlife it follows the laws of nature, yes.

I don't think that's unreasonable.

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You're sort of missing the point here. People believe in an afterlife because the very existence of your own subjective experience is clear evidence that there is more than physical laws involved in the operation of the universe.

You can get bogged down arguing about the definition of nature, but whatever you call it, your subjective experience is ruled by laws that are simply not observable. I think this is Roger Penrose's position on the matter fwiw.

Thus, there is evidence for an afterlife, which even the ancient philosophers like Socrates and Aristotle acknowledged, and the very subject you are raising was discussed a lot in medieval philosophy, most notably by Aquinas. So if you want to read how other people have answered the question, pretty much all roads will eventually lead back to Aquinas.

Google "aquinas disembodied memory" and you will get lots of links (like LINK) that discuss thought on what kind of memory disembodied souls are logically allowed to have in between the time of the second resurrection. Generally, medieval philosophers focused on whether and what types of memories were formally associated with the intellect, because the intellect was thought to survive physical death, even though there was no chance for using its union with the physical body to learn new things and have new memories.

I can't wait to haunt people. I'm making a list in my brain. I hope it doesn't get erased.

ETA: We don't even know what the hell is all in space. How are we to know if there's an afterlife or not?

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frick it. You asked a serious question so I will give you a serious start of an answer.

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Thanks for taking it seriously.

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You're sort of missing the point here. People believe in an afterlife because the very existence of your own subjective experience is clear evidence that there is more than physical laws involved in the operation of the universe.

You can get bogged down arguing about the definition of nature, but whatever you call it, your subjective experience is ruled by laws that are simply not observable. I think this is Roger Penrose's position on the matter fwiw.

Thus, there is evidence for an afterlife, which even the ancient philosophers like Socrates and Aristotle acknowledged,

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The fact humans have subjective experience isn't evidence of an aferlife. That's an absurd argument.

We have subjective experience...therefore there is an aferlife.


Come on man!

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I've always thought some people's versions of the afterlife were ridiculous. My family, for instance, taught me that everyone gets a mansion and riches in Heaven. As if materialistic bull shite is the final goal...

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The 101 virgins if you suicide bomb is a pretty diabolical version to preach to the simpleminded and disenfranchised.

It's a class they have to take. Required.

72 Virginians

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Thoughts?

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Any conclusion you have come to, is just a guess.