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Concrete slab curing time

Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:06 am
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:06 am
I'm about to pour a 44x30 slab with 18" footings (4" everywhere else). How should I help the curing along and how long before I can start framing?

I've read about covering with plastic and keeping wet, but also that just leaving the forms up for several days is enough.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:09 am
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:10 am to
You will be fine in 48 hours
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:12 am to
Wreck the forms tomorrow, saw cut it today if you have a green saw, tomorrow if you have a regular saw, and start framing.




Eta remember the drier you pour it the harder it is to work but to wet and it'll take longer to setup
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:16 am
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:12 am to
48 hours is fine. Wreck the firms the day after placement and frame the next day.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:16 am to
So the Portland cement folks are going overboard?
Posted by LikeABaussCat
bad spelling deal with it
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:17 am to
quote:

48 hours is fine. Wreck the firms the day after placement and frame the next day.


^This, but I wouldn't put any equipment on it just yet (skid steer/bobcat/telehandler). Wait about a week for that.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:18 am to
Yeah, we pour one day, wreck the next and anything that needs to be built within reason starts that afternoon. I don't recommend putting anything really heavy on it for 5 days but you can start framing if ya want.
Posted by laangler21
On the lake.
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:21 am to
What Ag said.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:21 am to
Ok great. Nothing heavy, just a few guys and some lumber. It'll be my dad and uncle, but just in case I'll make sure wait to feed them after the walls are up.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Eta remember the drier you pour it the harder it is to work but to wet and it'll take longer to setup


However, do not make it too dry. You want the correct mix of water to concrete mix. Also, the concrete should attain a strength of 3000 psi minimum before putting any heavy traffic on it. In my experience, 3000 psi usually is attained at +/- 72 hours (3days) minimum. I break concrete cylinders for a living. If this is going to be your foundation, you want to make sure that it is strong enough to hold the tonnage and not crack.

Ask yourself this. Do you want a structure to go up fast or do you want a structure to last for a long time?
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:43 am
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:38 am to
quote:

However, do not make it too dry.




Yeah that's what I was trying to get across, people think the drier you pour it the faster it sets, which is true to an extent, to wet is always better than to dry just makes for a longer day especially if you gotta slick finish it. I was gonna tell him about calcium carbonate but that would've just screwed him up
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:40 am to
quote:

calcium carbonate but that would've just screwed him up


Not really. Chemist here. Whatcha got?
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I break concrete cylinders for a living.


As do I

We usually look for at least 75% of the mix strength at 7 days... 28 days is when you should be at mix strength. However, normally the concrete is mixed well over the design limit so you will see it pass 3000 psi at 3 days pretty regularly.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:43 am to
It's to hot to be putting it in the mix unless you have several guys finishing it so just forget about it but a 2% calcium carbonate solution added to the mix will accelerate the curing. Don't do it though because y'all aren't doing this for a living.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28192 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:44 am to
it's something you pay extra for, but don't really get.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1924 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Yeah that's what I was trying to get across, people think the drier you pour it the faster it sets, which is true to an extent, to wet is always better than to dry just makes for a longer day especially if you gotta slick finish it. I was gonna tell him about calcium carbonate but that would've just screwed him up


No, not for foundation work. That is best used for roadway patching at night. Plus it is tricky and expensive.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1924 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:48 am to
quote:

As do I

We usually look for at least 75% of the mix strength at 7 days... 28 days is when you should be at mix strength. However, normally the concrete is mixed well over the design limit so you will see it pass 3000 psi at 3 days pretty regularly.


This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:55 am
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:49 am to
Yea... Just get you a nice 7" slump (probably order a 5" and have them add water if needed) and go to town. If someone else is working it, I would try to keep the slump 5+/-1.

I'm actually on a job now watching these Mexicans work 3.5" stuff and they are struggling
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:51 am to
I work for a company in Austin... ECS. I've got one more year till I get my stamp. Some days I feel like I will miss field work... Wait, never mind!
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:55 am
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28192 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:52 am to
man, you ought to edit out where you work.
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