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re: Concrete slab curing time

Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:57 am to
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Yea... Just get you a nice 7" slump (probably order a 5" and have them add water if needed) and go to town. If someone else is working it, I would try to keep the slump 5+/-1.




order a 5 and it'll show up a 9 I usually order a 3 and it shows up a 6 or 7
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26045 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:59 am to
I would moist cure it to prevent cracks. Put some sprinklers out there. The curing time is relative to the mix design. If it was my slab I'd wet cure for a week before putting any loads on it. I'm pretty conservative. It depends on so many factors.

What are you building on a 4" slab? With tolerances that slab could be 3.25" in some areas. I don't like building anything on less than 6".
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:00 am to
Detached garage.
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:02 am to
Very true

I find that happens more when the plant is close, or the driver is just a complete retard. Any more than a 20-30 min trip I usually don't see that big of a jump. Usually it's the drivers that cause that big jump in slump.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:04 am to
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Usually it's the drivers that cause that big jump in slump.




Yep we have several that we nick named water handle




Eta the bridge I'm on now we bid everything except the drill shafts and final slab precast just for that reason it's more of a pain dealing with precast bent caps but ar least we don't have to babysit them.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 9:07 am
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26045 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:08 am to
Id definitely moist cute it if it's a garage. I'd want to prevent the hydration or spider cracks. It's probably over board but I'd rather do it then look at an ugly slab every time i walked into my garage.
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:09 am to
Had a dude show up with a 10 a couple weeks ago... I was like WTF, how much water did you add. He said none and gave me a sob story about how he was a marine and couldn't be sent back to the plant bc they wouldn't let him work the rest of the day. I just let him mix till he hit 90 min... Still came out close to 9 though.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:15 am to
I used to be nice like that but now I send em back unless it's a drill shaft or it's going into a large industrial foundation. If we are pouring a slab especially a slick finish frick that I don't need my guys out there until midnight finishing
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:35 am to
I would agree on a straight cement mix. A ready mix company will not send a straight cement mix unless he orders it as such. Portland cement is about .06 per lb. To increase profit, especially on COD residential orders, plants substitute up to 20%_30% of Portland with slag, fly ash or C-ash. These products are about .01 per lb.

These products only become cementitious when in contact with Portland cement. The strength curve between 7-56 days looks far different on one of these mixes than that of a straight Portland mix. A straight Portland mix is expected to achieve 70% of 28 day design strength in 7 days. In that case, a 3000psi 28 day design should break at no less than 2200psi on day 7. It is at its most rapid rate of strength gain in the first 7 days. It gradually slows down as it moves to day 28.

On the flip side, a mix with 25% or more of slag, fly ash or c-ash is slow to gain strength in 7 days. Not uncommon to only achieve 50%-60% in 7 days. It really accelerates at around days 12-14 and picks up steam moving to the 28 day design goal. After 28 days, these blended mixes far outperform straight cement mixes as they continue to gain strength more rapidly than a straight Portland mix.

Pros of each

Straight cement:
1. Earlier 7 day strength gains.

Blend:
1. Less plastic shrinkage issues
2. More attractive finished product....especially a slag mix.
3. Better reflectivity of artificial lighting

If you ever wondered why some year old concrete driveway or sidewalk appears to be so much "whiter" than another it is because it was a blended mix. Straight cement mixes are more gray looking. Fly ash or c ash blends are a bit lighter. Slag is more white. A porch or patio, driveways, walks that will be under lighting at night always look best with a blended mix.....especially if your local plant has a slag silo.

I was a commercial sales manager for a very large ready mix company for 15 years, mainly selling to GCs. I dealt primarily with more complex commercial designs with design strengths up to 12,000 psi and a multitude of performance enhancing admixtures. But there was a lot of carry over similarities to residential applications.

I would listen to these guys who actually work in the field building residential construction. Their know best as they have practical experience. But I would advise you to know what they are shipping you. Don't just order "3000 psi mix" and be done as it might not be the best for your job. Order specific. If it is concrete slab that will be covered up and you want the assurance of early 7 day strength gain....order a straight Portland cement mix. If it is something you will not cover up and will reflect light at night, order slag/Portland mix or Fly Ash if they don't have slag.

The ready mix company will have many options if you specify your own design requirement. You can specify how much slag or ash you want to be included torwards the total cementitious ratio up to about a 60/40 blend.(60 being Portland) I would personally do a 70/30 for an exposed patio or driveway.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:39 am to
You should be able to get on it a couple of hours after you pour. Saw cut it the same day. You can start framing shortly after you finish saw cutting
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