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re: Chiropractic Adjustment Fans?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 5:27 pm to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 8/13/14 at 5:27 pm to FootballNostradamus
Anyone who requires you to go regularly to keep your spine in "alignment" is an absolute quack and preying on ignorance. I ask anyone who has gone to a chiro for an extended period of time why are they still needing to go to maintain the status quo?
Lots of long term joint damage to your facet joints from significant manipulations which result in even more chronic pain down the line.
Who do you think is more likely to "throw themselves out" the guy who has been getting his facet joints thrusted on a regular basis or the person who has been mobilized for specific facet immobility if needed and then worked to strengthen the deep stabilizing musculature of the spine?
Getting "adjusted" by a chiro is often the very opposite of what needs to occur for their patients. But it's a hell of a quick fix for an hour or two, and a great marketing scheme they are running.
Lots of long term joint damage to your facet joints from significant manipulations which result in even more chronic pain down the line.
Who do you think is more likely to "throw themselves out" the guy who has been getting his facet joints thrusted on a regular basis or the person who has been mobilized for specific facet immobility if needed and then worked to strengthen the deep stabilizing musculature of the spine?
Getting "adjusted" by a chiro is often the very opposite of what needs to occur for their patients. But it's a hell of a quick fix for an hour or two, and a great marketing scheme they are running.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 5:41 pm
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 5:30 pm to FootballNostradamus
I go there 3x a week. I hate when he snaps my neck. I can't help but think of all those Hollywood death scenes where someone's neck gets snapped.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 5:30 pm to St Augustine
Well that and some just want more money.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:26 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
quote:Does he use a bone saw and a piece of wood to bite down on?
The guy that I go to is not a typical chiro. He doesn't do x-rays or any of that stuff. It's a very simple operation. He's got a table that you lie face down on, and he has an orthopedic adjusting instrument (I think that's what he calls it) that he uses to tap the vertebrae back into alignment.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:38 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:
Today he adjusted my neck for the first time ever, though.
Holy Mother of God.
There was a split second there when I was convinced he just snapped my neck. Not a fan.
Probably because there are reports out there that state that those neck manipulations can result in torn neck arteries and death. Look it up.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:43 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
quote:Umm... No
Everyone's spine falls out of alignment(gets sublaxated) by doing normal, everyday things. The problem is, when you don't get the sublaxations adjusted, your spine compensates for it elsewhere, and it can eventually lead to long-term problems.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:52 pm to St Augustine
quote:
Getting "adjusted" by a chiro is often the very opposite of what needs to occur for their patients. But it's a hell of a quick fix for an hour or two, and a great marketing scheme they are running.
Tell that to the thousands of pro athletes who use chiros, just about every major pro team has them on staff.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:55 pm to FootballNostradamus
Go to a chiropractor? LOL no.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:03 pm to shutterspeed
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Probably because there are reports out there that state that those neck manipulations can result in torn neck arteries and death. Look it up.
And someone I know that was in their 30's had a mini stroke because of this!
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:16 pm to tracytiger
Had a roommate who applied to both medical school (real one, not chiropractic) and PT school and didn't get interviews to either. This happened several semesters in a row, he had bad grades and nothing else on his resume experience-wise. Got into chiro school on his first try!
All chiro schools are private schools that charge an arm and a leg. The schools are a huge scam. Got another buddy who is like 200k in the hole from tuition for 4 year chiro program and who makes about 30-40k a year. Has to go to shopping malls and set up booths and shite to try to recruit patients. He hates it, says he feels humiliated and like he is trying to "sell" people on them having pain and needing adjustments. I would NEVER go to one. I've seen too many studies where they link cervical manipulation to CVA (stroke) in otherwise young, healthy people.
All chiro schools are private schools that charge an arm and a leg. The schools are a huge scam. Got another buddy who is like 200k in the hole from tuition for 4 year chiro program and who makes about 30-40k a year. Has to go to shopping malls and set up booths and shite to try to recruit patients. He hates it, says he feels humiliated and like he is trying to "sell" people on them having pain and needing adjustments. I would NEVER go to one. I've seen too many studies where they link cervical manipulation to CVA (stroke) in otherwise young, healthy people.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:37 pm to FootballNostradamus
Lots of chiropractor hate up in here. I'm a former power lifter, I have battled bad back pain since I have quit competing. After going to MD's for years with no real fix (just prescription after prescription of pain pills) I finally decided to try a chiropractor. I went 2 or 3 times a week for 6 months and now only get adjusted when needed, about once every 6 months. It was a big help for me
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:48 pm to St Augustine
quote:
Anyone who requires you to go regularly to keep your spine in "alignment" is an absolute quack and preying on ignorance. I ask anyone who has gone to a chiro for an extended period of time why are they still needing to go to maintain the status quo?
No kidding. I love it when people say stupid stuff like "chiropractors aren't quacks/con artists, I go to mine three times a week!" Lol, that's the fricking point, to keep you coming back -- and paying -- on a regular basis.
My brother is a radiologist, and he has a saying that there's no such thing as an adjustment or realignment of the spine, and if that happens, you're paralyzed or dead.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:24 pm to Feral
Lots of territorial pissing in here. The chiro fans, the MD's, and PTs are all represented.
If it works for you it works. Going multiple times weekly is excessive. But all can be bashed. Pain management and ortho guys who just do steroid injections or pills.
PT is not above reproach either. They use many similar techniques to chiro. They work toward alignment as well.
If it works for you it works. Going multiple times weekly is excessive. But all can be bashed. Pain management and ortho guys who just do steroid injections or pills.
PT is not above reproach either. They use many similar techniques to chiro. They work toward alignment as well.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:30 pm to HeadBusta4LSU
Same here I used to compete. Would like to again someday. Like any other professional you just have to do your homework and find the best one.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:17 pm to FootballNostradamus
I'm a little skeptical but don't knock others that do it. If it works for you great - I just hope it isn't causing more damage and requiring life-long chiro treatment.
I do have a major problem with chiropractors that suddenly decide they want to do their "manipulations" on pets (usually dogs). I have reported a number of these people to the state boards for illegal practice of vet medicine. A close friend of mine had her dog injured by some quack that decided to start doing this.
I do have a major problem with chiropractors that suddenly decide they want to do their "manipulations" on pets (usually dogs). I have reported a number of these people to the state boards for illegal practice of vet medicine. A close friend of mine had her dog injured by some quack that decided to start doing this.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:43 pm to FootballNostradamus
No medical school in the country has a chiro program.
If you research any of the common things they do or tools they use, you will find no medical journals or clinical trials to support their claims.
They essentially have created an 'educational system' of institutions and licensing board outside of all mainstream medical realms to call themselves doctors (very scary) and concoct resolutions in a continual search for 'problems' to apply them to, all for a nominal fee of course!
Signed,
Not an md, physio, or jilted former patient
If you research any of the common things they do or tools they use, you will find no medical journals or clinical trials to support their claims.
They essentially have created an 'educational system' of institutions and licensing board outside of all mainstream medical realms to call themselves doctors (very scary) and concoct resolutions in a continual search for 'problems' to apply them to, all for a nominal fee of course!
Signed,
Not an md, physio, or jilted former patient
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:44 pm to AubieALUMdvm
quote:
No kidding. I love it when people say stupid stuff like "chiropractors aren't quacks/con artists, I go to mine three times a week!" Lol, that's the fricking point, to keep you coming back -- and paying -- on a regular basis. My brother is a radiologist, and he has a saying that there's no such thing as an adjustment or realignment of the spine, and if that happens, you're paralyzed or dead.
Well my brother is a better radiologist than your brother and he said that...
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:54 pm to Akit1
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:57 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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Hardly any research behind chiropractic. It's not traditional medicine. Even the research that has been done would be rated as poor in quality by any analysis team.
IE: placebo effect from hearing the pop/ crack.
Hardly any research behind chiropractic. It's not traditional medicine. Even the research that has been done would be rated as poor in quality by any analysis team.
IE: placebo effect from hearing the pop/ crack.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:03 pm to St Augustine
St Augustine,
My thoughts on the matter are that repetitive grade 5 mobs to joints would lead to an instability.
Regardless of if it's a PT, chiro, or osteopath doing the technique. There is a fine line between mobility and stability. Focusing on too much of either one will lead to a functional impairment.
My thoughts on the matter are that repetitive grade 5 mobs to joints would lead to an instability.
Regardless of if it's a PT, chiro, or osteopath doing the technique. There is a fine line between mobility and stability. Focusing on too much of either one will lead to a functional impairment.
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