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re: Chicago Police Shooting Video Released

Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by LSUFAN2005
Member since Aug 2004
1728 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

Did he remove his hands quickly from his pocket with a knife that could be mistaken as a pistol?


That might have been the case and its terrible for both parties then. Only if he could have just listened to them and stopped he would still be alive today.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10266 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

Doesn't look like murder to me


Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

It didn't even look like this kid was even coming at the police.


Yep. Because he wasn't
Posted by InfantryDawg
Valhalla
Member since Oct 2013
1777 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:53 pm to
As a Police officer he should show more discipline with his weapon. Being an officer of the law does not give you the right to decide who lives and who dies. I am not a fan of the BLM movement but this should make all people angry regardless of race. The guy was going to be arrested for a crime but until he left them no other option shots should not have been fired. Even then he could have went for a wounding shot instead of straight to the kill shot.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85011 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Was it a throwing knife? Because it didn't look like he was in striking distance to me.

21 feet for a knife is what's taught in the Academy.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:54 pm to
You can attest that there are some guys within the force looking to shoot.
Posted by cajunsaint
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
574 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:54 pm to
frick you pussy. I'm all for charging this guy, but what you just said is a completely broad generalizing statement that is completely false. Go frick yourself bitch.
Posted by LSUFAN2005
Member since Aug 2004
1728 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

Yep. Because he wasn't


No he was just running around high on pcp in a major street. Who appeared to show some kind of sliver weapon in his left pocket. Shame on the officers for confusing it for a gun.

For all they know it was a gun and they are clearly in shooting distance whether or not he was running at them.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10188 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:55 pm to
What time do the riots kickoff??


All protestors off work yet?
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7722 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:55 pm to
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stop or I'll shoot!




Watch to many movies. You cannot shoot someone because they won't stop

He was not an immediate threat to the officer. Plain and simple, it was murder.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

That might have been the case and its terrible for both parties then. Only if he could have just listened to them and stopped he would still be alive today.


Slow motion shows hand in pocket with first shot. So no, he did not remove it until after he was shot first. Also, please notice the smoke coming from his body from the rest of the shots as he lay motionless.

While I agree had he complied he'd be alive. However, it was the bullets that killed him. Had the officer not used a shoot first and continue to shoot as he lay motionless mentality, he'd also still be alive today.
Posted by LSUFAN2005
Member since Aug 2004
1728 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

He was not an immediate threat to the officer. Plain and simple, it was murder.


If that was a gun instead of a knife would he be an immediate danger then?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:58 pm to
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No he was just running around high on pcp in a major street. Who appeared to show some kind of sliver weapon in his left pocket. Shame on the officers for confusing it for a gun.


Nope. The officers were already told he had a knife
Posted by InfantryDawg
Valhalla
Member since Oct 2013
1777 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:58 pm to
That is an issue that should be addressed . I have witnessed more restraint from young privates in the Army while deployed. I usually side with law enforcement but I cannot side with this officer. I believe most officers are doing things properly but this is extreme and should be dealt with.
Posted by SJS101
Member since Oct 2007
2795 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

he could have went for a wounding shot instead of straight to the kill shot.


That doesn't make sense. You shoot to kill the threat or you don't shoot at all. Problem here is Mr. Cop acted rashly to say the least. But shooting to wing him or wound him seems like some Hollywood shite to me.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:59 pm to
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If that was a gun instead of a knife would he be an immediate danger then?
Maybe, but that is irrelevant to THIS situation.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

watch to many movies


You are correct.

I'm not an attorney or involved in law enforcement to know the correct language. Nor do I put myself in situations where I would actually hear these terms.

Sad situation.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:00 pm to
16 shots. about 14 while he lay on the ground motionless
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17717 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Even then he could have went for a wounding shot instead of straight to the kill shot.


While what he did was wrong you have no F'n idea what you're talking about. You only shoot to stop the threat, i.e. shoot to kill. We do not shoot to "wound" or give "warning shots".
Posted by iSpy
Member since Sep 2015
274 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:01 pm to
I thought the black guy was a cop at first ,with the way he was holding his hands. Looks like he was holding something that looked like a gun to me ,or something similar. Why couldnt he just stop and listen ? Its ridiculous that anyone would expect a good outcome , when you don't follow orders from police .
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