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re: CB&I Buyer's Remorse Lulz

Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
6985 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:20 pm to
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Bevan came out to our job site once. He had 10 handlers trying to explain to him how soil sampling works


But was a good LB !!!
Posted by wal marks
bee arrah
Member since Mar 2013
1115 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:22 pm to
I guess I shouldn't phrase it like that. But yes they are definitely pursuing them with great gusto
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11792 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:25 pm to
Epic's facility in Livingston is state of the art. The welding building is conditioned. If you were a welder here would you want to work, a ventilated warehouse or conditioned area at the same pay rate.... How much more would they have to pay you to work in the unconditioned facility?

I have been waiting to see how his companies grow/turnout. It hasn't even been but a year and a half since his no compete ended. And since then he has amassed a huge coffer with bernhard Capitol, and has a huge commercial construction footprint with Bernhard, LLC

Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12804 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:28 pm to
How many spools a month they running thru that shop?
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:29 pm to
They high as giraffe pussy
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:32 pm to
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How many spools a month they running thru that shop?



Not many...but they have an air conditioned shop
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12804 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:33 pm to
They make up for it with production.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:37 pm to
What's that mean ?

I can pay 20% less and get a comparable product
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:38 pm to
As one who buys fabricated pipe and steel regularly, I'll tell you I don't give a shite about an air conditioned fab shop. As of right now, no one can beat the oil field guys that are hurting for business. I hate it for them, but they're fab prices are insane right now, and I'll gladly send work their way.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:40 pm to
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Shaw was pretty much like a ponzi scheme. They would include in their revenue contracts that were signed but the work may have never materialized. The company was a big ole steaming pile of shite wrapped in gold tin foil and CB&I fell for it. They made money by making people believe how great they were through flashy press releases.


Every company I've been a part of has included revenue from new contracts in their backlog. That unearned revenue is a liability on the balance sheet, unless you're saying they were including new revenue as a receivable which seems highly unlikely.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12804 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:43 pm to
That was a joke. They can't honestly be bidding 20% over the regional rate. It's not like they aren't looking up their competitions skirt with their relationships. I can't see him not buying work to get the shop running, he's sitting on a ton of cash.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134843 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:43 pm to
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Are Shaw 2.0 employees allowed to ride the elevator with Bernhard?



I hopped in a crowded elevator once and he was in there. I was headed out to do field work and made the mistake of having a hat on in the building. Felt a tap on my shoulder and turned around to see him staring at me. He asked me to take my hat off then asked "what do you do for me?". I told him I was sampling at a casket company and he was apparently so intrigued he asked my boss to do a summary of operations write up and send it to him. I caught hell in the office for a couple weeks after that

I hear he's fired many people in that elevator
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:45 pm to
Warning sign to me at Shaw was the political activity of the CEO. He was so active and partisan it was clear the company was not his primary concern.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134843 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:48 pm to
When they announced the buy out, there was a live conference call with all the offices. He opened it up for questions after the announcement and the first question was "are you running for a political office?".
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:49 pm to
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"They have this nice building*, what could go wrong?"

*that was actually built by another large failed BR corporation.


The building of Essen was built and is owned by Wompold. He has hardly failed.

And the other about revenue it is mark to market accounting.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12804 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:00 pm to
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And the other about revenue it is mark to market accounting.


You can call whatever term those guys from Enron called it, makes no difference. Book job in 2003 for 750 million, show job making 100 mil in '04 and '05, lose 450mil on project, file suit for 500mil, show job in black. Lose in court, buy another company, take a 450 mil write down, claim new company's backlog and it all looks good again. Book another project, repeat
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:07 pm to
I'm telling you what it is called. Not whether it is good or bad and I don't need a lesson on how it works. I've known Jim Bernhard and all the other Bernhards all my life. I know how he operates.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:10 pm to
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Every company I've been a part of has included revenue from new contracts in their backlog. That unearned revenue is a liability on the balance sheet, unless you're saying they were including new revenue as a receivable which seems highly unlikely.




So, being included on a $1B possible IDIQ, no work of which has been included, means that Shaw should report that as backlog? That's fricking laughable.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:15 pm to
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I hopped in a crowded elevator once and he was in there. I was headed out to do field work and made the mistake of having a hat on in the building. Felt a tap on my shoulder and turned around to see him staring at me. He asked me to take my hat off then asked "what do you do for me?". I told him I was sampling at a casket company and he was apparently so intrigued he asked my boss to do a summary of operations write up and send it to him. I caught hell in the office for a couple weeks after that



The guy is such a fricking a-hole. "What do you do for me"? Who says that?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134843 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:17 pm to
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The guy is such a fricking a-hole. "What do you do for me"? Who says that?


That was a very common question for him to ask. He's a major league a-hole.
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