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Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:30 am to Cash
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Agreed, these two offer great academics and a different experience. Mishaps, Bellhaven, etc will struggle to keep the lights on.
What’s interesting (or maybe telling) is that all of these schools were founded on and grew out sort of unique identities, be it particular Christian denominations, or focused traditions and offerings, and that it seems to be the ones that felt they should just morph into just generic “liberal academia” that are now most struggling to hang on.
Well that, and being cursed with a shite locale currently.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:32 am to Cash
quote:Heady, frisbee golf, knows the right dosage of acid or shrooms
What is the Birmingham Southern type?
Very similar profile to Sewanee students
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 8:34 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:39 am to DoctorTechnical
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Not exactly equivalent
Correct. One of them is shutting down.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:52 am to No Colors
My brother went there. Did a ton of drugs and my parents got tired of paying the tuition. Ended up finishing up at much cheaper Ole Miss.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:27 am to No Colors
I wouldn’t count on this as some kind of predictor.
BSC was a very expensive private college in a shitty part of west Birmingham. They should have been issuing bullet proof vests with each enrollment. No one wants to send little Johnny or Janie into a war zone just to get a BA degree.
BSC was a very expensive private college in a shitty part of west Birmingham. They should have been issuing bullet proof vests with each enrollment. No one wants to send little Johnny or Janie into a war zone just to get a BA degree.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:31 am to Pax Regis
Is BSC in the same neighborhood as rickwood/the crossplex? That area is sketch as all hell.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:47 am to Pedro
About two miles from Crossplex.
I saw this coming for years. If BSC had relocated to say, Mountain Brook, it would be thriving.
I saw this coming for years. If BSC had relocated to say, Mountain Brook, it would be thriving.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:55 am to tiggerthetooth
They won't learn. Many of these colleges turned themselves into little more than job programs for the otherwise unemployable with overpriced, out-of-demand degrees. Bloated administrative staff they refuse to fire will drag them down eventually.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:59 am to Pax Regis
A good buddy of mine went to BSC. Actually had a lot of friends there from Baton Rouge.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:01 pm to Pax Regis
quote:yea no way id ever send my kid there. when i was competing at ULM we'd usually have at least two meets a year at the crossplex. We'd go warm up/cooldown in that neighborhood from time to time and were often stopped by police giving us a heads up it wasnt safe.
About two miles from Crossplex.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:12 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Regarding mention of Millsaps v. MC v. Belhaven:
All these had roughly similar enrollment in the last decades, but MC and Belhaven kept/leaned into their religious identities, added practical courses/programs outside traditional curriculum (ie nursing, online MBA), when Millsaps thought it could coast on more of the same.
At the end of the day, I think most of these type schools are going to be majority athletes looking to keep playing post HS, but both Belhaven and MC may be in a better enrollment/long term outlook wise.
All these had roughly similar enrollment in the last decades, but MC and Belhaven kept/leaned into their religious identities, added practical courses/programs outside traditional curriculum (ie nursing, online MBA), when Millsaps thought it could coast on more of the same.
At the end of the day, I think most of these type schools are going to be majority athletes looking to keep playing post HS, but both Belhaven and MC may be in a better enrollment/long term outlook wise.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:17 pm to Geopardee
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both Belhaven and MC may be in a better enrollment/long term outlook wise.
Belhaven and MC will both be around in 20 years due to the issues you mentioned. Millsaps will not. They're down to 60% of the enrollment that they say they need to survive. That demographic won't change overnight, if at all. Millsaps is done.
MC is staking itself out as the Baptist school and it will do fine there. Just like Samford.
Belhaven developed a niche with foreign students that is working out well.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:21 pm to No Colors
Agreed—it’s a tough sell. Millsaps just recently hired a new President. Would love to be a fly on the wall during those Board discussions.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:24 pm to Geopardee
Biggest issue with this institution…. No parent in their right mind visiting the school would let their offspring matriculate in that neighborhood….. an absolute shite show that part of town has come to
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:26 pm to Cosmo
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Also being in a shitty part of town didnt help. Samford pulls in a similar student type and is in a better part of Birmingham.
This is one of their biggest problem. BSC is in one of the worst parts of Birmingham, literally surrounded by some of the highest crime neighborhoods. And with Samford just across town, Bham Southern simply has nothing to offer.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:33 pm to Asleepinthecove
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I think the downfall began when they decided to move away from NAIA. That caused an unnecessary expense for the university as it had to include certain athletics within it’s program.
I was reading that their downfall had to do with nitwits in their Finance Department who incorrectly calculated student scholarship amounts. They were costing the college millions a year for quite a few years until it was discovered. Not a crime, just incompetence.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:45 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Many more colleges need to go under unless they can reign in costs.
And offer real training in areas that offer good chances of gainful employment rather than Marxist BS.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:53 pm to WFU1986
I hung out on that campus a lot in the early 2000’s. I had a blast. It was a very small place but we had a bunch of fun. Lots of KA and SAE friends there. As to the neighborhood around. It really is bad but the campus is not really open. There are guard gates to get in and a police force. Rarely was there ever even a break in of a car. The neighborhood is equivalent to the one north of LSU. Legion field was there also.
When you get out of campus you took one left and were on the interstate almost immediately and headed towards downtown.
When you get out of campus you took one left and were on the interstate almost immediately and headed towards downtown.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:55 pm to Cosmo
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Sewanee
Provides a sorta unique rural college experience
Will probably be OK
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Sewanee has the distinction of having the best student: acreage ration. Lots of forested space and a beautiful campus. If Sewanee did go under, this will be one desirable property.
Sewanee
Provides a sorta unique rural college experience
Will probably be OK
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Sewanee has the distinction of having the best student: acreage ration. Lots of forested space and a beautiful campus. If Sewanee did go under, this will be one desirable property.
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