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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:13 am to reedus23
Posted on 5/30/15 at 10:13 am to reedus23
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So everyone sitting in jail protesting their innocence is, in fact, innocent? I don't don't there are some but who knows how many.
Darth says it's the "vast majority" and I'm a "smart arse" for not agreeing
I believe there are a small minority locked up that are bystanders.
I also believe that by cuffing everyone for a day or two the pd saved many more lives.
But any that didn't have clear evidence against them should of been cut loose after two days.
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:37 pm to Old Sarge
LINK
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May 31, 2015
Waco, Texas – Earlier today, detainees in the Jack Harwell Detention Center in Waco were told that in exchange for bond reductions, they must sign a document stating the Waco police “had the right to arrest the inmate and that he/she will not file a lawsuit against McLennan County and/or the City of Waco.”
On the two-week anniversary of the “shootout at high noon” at the Twin Peaks restaurant between motorcyclists and law enforcement officers, at least 170 people remain detained on $1 million bonds.
This latest information was reported to an attorney representing at least one of the detainees. “It appears the public defenders office in McLennan County is involved in this scurrilous activity,” said Paul Looney, a Houston attorney with Looney & Conrad, P.C. “I’ve never seen anything like the lawlessness that the authorities have perpetrated on these people and now to add insult to injury they are trying to cover their own tracks in exchange for bond. I will be in the reception area of the McLennan County D.A.’s office tomorrow morning at 8:30 with the intention of not leaving until we have the issue of bond resolved.”
“They know these people aren’t dangerous or they wouldn’t be offering the bond reductions and they know the police and the D.A.’s office have violated the law and now they are trying to hold people hostage until they agree to waive their rights. It’s unconscionable,” said Clay S. Conrad, Looney’s law partner.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:59 pm to Darth_Vader
note to self:
do not join motorcycle club
EVER
do not join motorcycle club
EVER
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:13 pm to Darth_Vader
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Earlier today, detainees in the Jack Harwell Detention Center in Waco were told that in exchange for bond reductions, they must sign a document stating the Waco police “had the right to arrest the inmate and that he/she will not file a lawsuit against McLennan County and/or the City of Waco.”
At this point, the feds should be flying in with the National guard to take over this farce.
This reads like some crap from a bad novel about a post apocalyptic state. I cannot wait to read the depositions from the people who came up with this horse shite. They will be forced to provide full, invasive disclosure about their reasoning for this.
It may also be time for the fed to seize all computers before all of the emails can be destroyed.
Blackmailing the innocent and guilty with lower bail is a desperate act. I expect to see resignations beginning soon.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:30 pm to Darth_Vader
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It's been almost TWO frickING WEEKS. So "who knows" is pure horseshite.
I'll tell you who should "know" by now.., the asshats at the Waco PD. pretty fricking simple. Line these 170 up and ask one simple question.. "Do we have a shred of evidence this one specific person had anything to do with what happened at Twin Peaks?" And unless they gave hard evidence that specific person did indeed take part in the shooting, LET THEM GO FREE.
And I'll tell you who doesn't know is us asshats on the rant.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:46 pm to reedus23
Let me put this to y'all another way, you're a member of a labor union, your union leaders preform a criminal act at a union meeting, the cops arrest everyone in attendance and charge them with performing a criminal activity and set their bond at a million dollars, would you be saying the same things you are saying about the arestees? I think not y'all would all be on a high horse screaming about false arrest and all kinds of abuse of power, but because it's "bikers" y'all are all "well their bikers so what".
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:53 pm to Agforlife
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but because it's "bikers" y'all are all "well their bikers so what".
Pretty much right. But is the problem with the fact that people say that about bikers or with the fact that you are comparing a labor union to a criminal organization in the Bandidos. Now if you're telling me that the union members that got arrested were at a meeting with the Gambino family, then no, I probably wouldn't feel much sympathy for them either.
ETA - I guess I should at that at that meeting with the Gambinos and Genovese families, a fight with weapons breaks out. No, no sympathy.
This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 5/31/15 at 11:00 pm to reedus23
Guess you're in the dark about the fact labor unions have for decades been under the control of the mafia.
You're a typical Anerican idiot. You're not concerned with the fact the constitution of the U.S. Is being shite on all because the ones being victimized are people you don't like. What you're too blind to see though is if this can happen to them, then it can happen to anyone, including you. Wake the frick up.
You're a typical Anerican idiot. You're not concerned with the fact the constitution of the U.S. Is being shite on all because the ones being victimized are people you don't like. What you're too blind to see though is if this can happen to them, then it can happen to anyone, including you. Wake the frick up.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 11:40 pm to Agforlife
The good ole days when the strike busters would show up with belt-fed machine guns.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 11:59 pm to Darth_Vader
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Waco, Texas – Earlier today, detainees in the Jack Harwell Detention Center in Waco were told that in exchange for bond reductions, they must sign a document stating the Waco police “had the right to arrest the inmate and that he/she will not file a lawsuit against McLennan County and/or the City of Waco.”
If true... What complete horse shite.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:00 am to 3nOut
Agreed. What a travesty of justice.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:15 am to Hangit
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Hangit
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Earlier today, detainees in the Jack Harwell Detention Center in Waco were told that in exchange for bond reductions, they must sign a document stating the Waco police “had the right to arrest the inmate and that he/she will not file a lawsuit against McLennan County and/or the City of Waco.”
quote:It's exactly what you'd expect with all of those liberals in Waco.
At this point, the feds should be flying in with the National guard to take over this farce.
This reads like some crap from a bad novel about a post apocalyptic state. I cannot wait to read the depositions from the people who came up with this horse shite. They will be forced to provide full, invasive disclosure about their reasoning for this.
It may also be time for the fed to seize all computers before all of the emails can be destroyed.
Blackmailing the innocent and guilty with lower bail is a desperate act. I expect to see resignations beginning soon.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:18 am to CCTider
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those Baptists in Waco
FIFY
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:43 am to Corch Urban Myers
quote:Need a drink
those Baptists
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:56 am to Darth_Vader
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Earlier today, detainees in the Jack Harwell Detention Center in Waco were told that in exchange for bond reductions, they must sign a document stating the Waco police “had the right to arrest the inmate and that he/she will not file a lawsuit against McLennan County and/or the City of Waco
They should just sign it, while not an barister myself this would seem to be the very definition of a signature under duress and is not worth the price of the ink it would take to sign it.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:04 am to 3nOut
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Waco, Texas – Earlier today, detainees in the Jack Harwell Detention Center in Waco were told that in exchange for bond reductions, they must sign a document stating the Waco police “had the right to arrest the inmate and that he/she will not file a lawsuit against McLennan County and/or the City of Waco.”
quote:
If true... What complete horse shite.
I'm not even close to being a legal expert so this may be a dumb question in the eyes of the OT lawyers. But what I'd like to know from someone who is experienced in this area is this. Is it normal for a city or county to do something like this? To me it seems highly underhanded.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:21 am to Darth_Vader
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Is it normal for a city or county to think up something like this and then all agree it is a good idea?
FIFY
The sad part is that, as usual, the taxpayers will be the ones penalized when the stupid actions of the city result in huge payouts.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:33 am to jbgleason
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The sad part is that, as usual, the taxpayers will be the ones penalized when the stupid actions of the city result in huge payouts.
From the reports I've seen, it looks to me like there will be at least dozens of lawsuits coming from this. And I hope that those who have been sitting in jail going on three weeks now get the maximum possible for having their rights violated and their lives turned upside down. And past that, I hope everyone responsible for what's happened to these people are held personally responsible both from a monetary and employment standpoint.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:16 am to Darth_Vader
Darth, you are my second favorite poster on here. Your knowledge about motorcycles, and foot fetishisim make you a personal favorite. However, these idiots (and that is what they are, make no mistake) had a CoC at a PUBLIC place? WTF were they even thinking. That was so damn stupid! 
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:41 pm to Corch Urban Myers
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Darth, you are my second favorite poster on here. Your knowledge about motorcycles, and foot fetishisim make you a personal favorite. However, these idiots (and that is what they are, make no mistake) had a CoC at a PUBLIC place? WTF were they even thinking. That was so damn stupid!
It is a bit out of the ordinary to conduct a CoC meeting at a public venue. I don't know how they do things in Texas but where I live, most CoC meetings take place at a member club's clubhouse. But that's not to say they never happen anywhere else. In fact, if you look at the Alabama CoC calendar on their public website, you'll see this Saturday there will be an Alabama CoC meeting at a pool hall in Montgomery. So while it's rare, it's not unheard of. Besides that, I've attended CoC meetings for years and never once seen a fight break out even between two people, much less a whole running gun battles involving like 200 people as the Waco police want us to believe happened two weeks ago.
And the thing about these meetings is they're nothing that's "private" about them and they're open to everyone. Here's a link to something you should read. It does a great job describing what goes on....
LINK
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Here is a typical May Central Texas COC&I agenda:
Opening Prayer (a pastor of a church from Austin would have prayed).
Pledge of allegiance to the American flag.
Reports from the chairman from the recent meeting at the National Coalition of Motorcyclist annual convention.
Reports from the Legislative Task Force regarding current legislation affecting motorcyclist.
Reports from Safety and Awareness committee.
(May is Motorcycle Safety and Awareness month, so there would have been extensive talk about upcoming meeting with City officials around the area for Motorcycle Safety and Awareness Proclamations)
Closing remarks
Closing devotional remarks and prayer
That is about it. No talk about club business or issues are conducted at a COC&I meeting. In fact, it is common for there to be an announcement that if anyone has issues with anyone else, this is not the place for that, so take it elsewhere.
All clubs as well as those who ride, but do not wear a patch, are invited to attend.
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