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re: Bad accident at Endymion - Truck drives into crowd, dozens injured
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:54 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:54 am to Tiger Ryno
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Alcohol in public needs to be banned. But sadly the people of La. Will rather see people die than take away their booz.
Ugh.
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:43 am to tigercross
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They'll be able to make claims and collect on their own UM policies.
As pedestrians? (Not the 2 cars involved)
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:59 am to Breesus
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Do you understand how a bond works and why it is set?
I do understand, and I still think it's low.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:08 am to southernelite
i mean if he hires a bondsman, it will cost $15k for the fees alone
that's a lot of money to just ensure he goes to his court dates. bond is not supposed to be punitive
that's a lot of money to just ensure he goes to his court dates. bond is not supposed to be punitive
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:09 am to southernelite
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No way he blew a .232 after one drink, even it was roofied.
a roofied drink would show up as a drug in a blood test and not the BAC
.232 is getting into "you may die" territory for a normal person
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Bail is based upon a lot more than just ensuring appearance at court.
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The amount of bail shall be fixed in an amount that will ensure the presence of the defendant, as required, and the safety of any other person and the community, having regard to:
(1) The seriousness of the offense charged, including but not limited to whether the offense is a crime of violence or involves a controlled dangerous substance.
(2) The weight of the evidence against the defendant.
(3) The previous criminal record of the defendant.
(4) The ability of the defendant to give bail.
(5) The nature and seriousness of the danger to any other person or the community that would be posed by the defendant's release.
(6) The defendant's voluntary participation in a pretrial drug testing program.
(7) The absence or presence in the defendant of any controlled dangerous substance.
(8) Whether the defendant is currently out on a bail undertaking on a previous felony arrest for which he is awaiting institution of prosecution, arraignment, trial, or sentencing.
(9) Any other circumstances affecting the probability of defendant's appearance.
(10) The type or form of bail.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Was the crowd in the median or by the inspection sticker station?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:13 am to tLSU
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Bail is based upon a lot more than just ensuring appearance at court.
quote:
The amount of bail shall be fixed in an amount that will ensure the presence of the defendant, as required, and the safety of any other person and the community, having regard to:
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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232 is getting
Is being drunk all night and then starting again at 8/9 am.
Idiot shouldn't have gotten behind the wheel
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:13 am to tLSU
I agree it shouldn't be punitive. It should be set considering the possibility of the guy skipping out from the potential punishment.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:14 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
The amount of bail shall be fixed in an amount that will ensure the presence of the defendant, as required, and the safety of any other person and the community, having regard to:
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:14 am to The Torch
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Idiot shouldn't have gotten behind the wheel
i mean, i hope nobody is arguing this point
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:16 am to tLSU
yeah that's for like serial killers or organized crime who may kill/intimidate witnesses
this situation is terrible but unless he has a history of driving drunk and plowing into crowds, then this situation should have no bearing on the safety of the public regarding his bond
this situation is terrible but unless he has a history of driving drunk and plowing into crowds, then this situation should have no bearing on the safety of the public regarding his bond
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:17 am to Tiger Ryno
So I can't drink a beer at a parade just because some drunken a-hole plows his car into a crowd?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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yeah that's for like serial killers or organized crime who may kill/intimidate witnesses
No, it isn't. There's a reason why the legislature thought it necessary to put a rather exhaustive list underneath that, none of which lends itself to serial killers or organized crime (other than if you want to stretch prior criminal history to mean that.)
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:24 am to tLSU
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none of which lends itself to serial killers or organized crime (
other than criminal history and threat to the public while out on bail
LA abuses the shite out of the bond system b/c LA is a little police state
WE'RE #1
WE'RE #1
our state loves to do things like use really high bonds and under-fund the PDO to force pleas to keep people in the system
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Considering he's looking at probably 20+ counts, I think 10 grand a count would have been a more reasonable bond. Somewhere in the $200-250k isn't punitive.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No
.232 is getting into "you may die" territory for a normal person
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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232 is getting into "you may die" territory for a normal person
232 is not bad, but I wouldn't say it's "you may die" level.
A lot determining factors have to be considered, especially tolerance. Many alcoholics live in the 200 range. I see people weekly in the 250-350 range.
Highest I have personally seen in a living person is 636 and simply amazed she was awake but not alert, tubed her a way as a precaution.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 9:31 am
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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.232 is getting into "you may die" territory for a normal person
This is what I was questioning. His grandmother said she doesn't know him to be a heavy drinker. But you'd have to be pretty well trained as a drinker to withstand that much alcohol and walk.
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