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re: Article on Rape at UVA

Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:02 pm to
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I would suggest writing about the things you know, not the things you've heard second hand.


So because I didn't go to UVA, I am disqualified from opining on a well-publicized scandal concerning it. Got it.

I'll be sure to disregard any further observations from my friends who did go there, since they can't be trusted.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19143 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:06 pm to
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So because I didn't go to UVA, I am disqualified from opining on a well-publicized scandal concerning it. Got it.


In this case, yes. You're poorly positioned to make judgements on the authors allegations, and her charizations of the community. She goes out of her way to present a distorted image of life at UVa. She does so by contorting and selectively ignoring information. It's difficult to see that without actually knowing UVa.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
2857 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:17 pm to
What struck me as most odd was the statistic that 1 in 5 women is sexually assaulted in college (12% report it). How in the world is that true?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36406 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:21 pm to
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It's difficult to see that without actually knowing UVa.


What about the people who do "know" UVA (ie went there) and have said these things to me? Did something get lost in translation? Is my plebeian, non-UVA brain incapable of correctly retaining the information they graciously conveyed to me?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19143 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:30 pm to
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What struck me as most odd was the statistic that 1 in 5 women is sexually assaulted in college (12% report it). How in the world is that true?



There's a great deal of conflict about those numbers. Some say 6% others say 20%. It really comes down to what you include (does a drunken kiss at a bar count?) and if you label drunken sex assault (which a number of these surveys do).

The BJS calculates that 3% of college women are raped every year.

Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79128 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 4:59 pm to
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What struck me as most odd was the statistic that 1 in 5 women is sexually assaulted in college (12% report it). How in the world is that true?



It's not, but as a society we're rapidly working to change the definition to match up with the fake statistic we've been using for years.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:11 pm to
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The part where he sees her at work and acts like nothing happened is pretty chilling.

That part almost seems made up. How could someone be that sick?


Very believable. Anyone scummy enough to commit a rape is scummy enough to act like it's no big deal if he sees the vic later.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:13 pm to
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What struck me as most odd was the statistic that 1 in 5 women is sexually assaulted in college (12% report it). How in the world is that true?


Groping meets the legal definition of sexual assault.

And I don't have a problem with that definition. If a gay guy came up to you and grabbed your crotch, you wouldn't be very happy about it. And you'd most likely feel justified in punching him out (even if you don't actually do it).
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:19 pm to
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The part where he sees her at work and acts like nothing happened is pretty chilling.

That part almost seems made up. How could someone be that sick?

He may not see anything wrong with his actions.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19143 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:09 pm to
Rolling Stone whiffs in reporting on alleged rape

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Posted by Charlie Arglist
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Nov 2012
5550 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:22 pm to
Rolling Stone magazine apologized to readers for a story it published chronicling one woman's account of a gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity house and the school's failure to respond to that alleged assault.

"In the face of new information, there now appear to be discrepancies in [the woman's] account, and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced," Rolling Stone said.

The fraternity chapter's lawyer, Ben Warthen, told CNN the magazine's story is "just not true."

UVA had suspended all fraternities until after the winter break in the wake of the report.
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