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re: Armed robber was never told to report to prison
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:10 pm to SuperSoakher
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:10 pm to SuperSoakher
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The big problem that I see here now is that you're not just punishing one person anymore. Now you're punishing his daughter and wife who weren't in the picture 14 years ago. Now three people have to suffer for Missouri's frick up rather than just the guy.
Yea, but this happens to any family where a family member is put in jail. This situations sucks, but I lean more towards he needs to do his time. It's a dangerous precedent to set.
Asking this as a hypothetical, and not as an argument, but what if his crime was rape instead of armed robbery?
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:10 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I heard this story on This American Life a while back. It's a strange story and he seems to have turned his life around and be reformed. The manager that was robbed was also interviewed for the story and thinks it's really messed up.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:10 pm to OnTheBrink
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:11 pm to GeauxWrek
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was a SWAT team in full gear really necessary to go pick him up?
I'm guessing police departments do this to justify their existence.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:11 pm to SuperSoakher
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The big problem that I see here now is that you're not just punishing one person anymore. Now you're punishing his daughter and wife who weren't in the picture 14 years ago. Now three people have to suffer for Missouri's frick up rather than just the guy.
But if you're going to use that argument, can't it likewise be applied to all the other men and women who go to prison daily and leave behind spouses and dependent children?
The more I think about this case, the more I think the best course of action is for the Gov to pardon him and let everyone go about their life. Bottom line though is something has to be done to satisfy the requirements of the judicial system. They cannot simply say "oops, our bad" and sweep this under the rug.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:11 pm to SuperSoakher
Time for a lot of community service.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:11 pm to DanTiger
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How would you feel if you were the person he pointed it at and robbed?
Well, the guy who got robbed with that gun says he should remain free, so....
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:11 pm to Byron Bojangles III
People that want to see this guy locked up are the same ones who talk about how we spend too much on prisoners
Go figure
Go figure
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:11 pm to DanTiger
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How would you feel if you were the person he pointed it at and robbed?
Funny you should ask because NPR found and interviewed the victim. He doesn't want this guy to be locked up.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:12 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
13 years later. I bet his opinion was different the day after it happened.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:12 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Well, the guy who got robbed with that gun says he should remain free, so....
With that knowledge, I'd say he should not have to go.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:12 pm to DanTiger
quote:How is it "likely"? You're assuming the worst.
The first misrepresentation that jumps out at me is the fact that he has "opened 3 businesses in 13 years". That likely means that they opened and failed and not that he is a titan of local industry contributing to the economy.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:12 pm to LNCHBOX
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but what if his crime was rape instead of armed robbery?
It would be a more serious crime and would need to be treated more seriously. But it wasn't.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:12 pm to LSUJuicer
State of Missouri told him to wait on reporting instructions. They didn't say how long though as admitted by this frick. They allowed him 13 years, but it's now time to pay up. He should be greatful for their error
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:12 pm to CaptainsWafer
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13 years later. I bet his opinion was different the day after it happened.
So?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:13 pm to ZereauxSum
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How would you feel if you were the person he pointed it at and robbed?
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Funny you should ask because NPR found and interviewed the victim. He doesn't want this guy to be locked up.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:13 pm to ZereauxSum
I don't think he should be locked up either at this point because if how his life turned around. However, he still robbed someone. I hope he gets community service at worst, but he still robbed someone. That set this course of events in motion years ago.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:13 pm to SuperSoakher
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It would be a more serious crime and would need to be treated more seriously. But it wasn't.
I know, hence the disclaimer or warning. Knowing the victim is OK with him out, I see no problem to let him go.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:14 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's a dangerous precedent to set.
I have no idea how I feel about this story, and I don't care much one way or the other so I'm not going to argue it (so don't try! I know you
).. but this statement right here is what zero tolerance uses and I am just really anti-zero tolerance. I have never been a big fan of "we have to do X even though it's really silly and unnecessary to make sure Y never happens".. "to set the tone".. no.
I'm more in the "case by case" camp.
(As I'm typing this, I'm picturing school zero tolerance policies, but this can apply to the law at times as well)
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:14 pm to Darth_Vader
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But if you're going to use that argument, can't it likewise be applied to all the other men and women who go to prison daily and leave behind spouses and dependent children?
When the crime happened, he was a single man, or at least not with the woman he is with now, or the child. So, a little different.
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