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re: AP has called it- ohio says NO to pot legalization
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Would be nice to be able to go pick up a J on a Friday evening from a safe, reliable establishment.
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:25 pm to texashorn
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You people know why pot was originally made illegal in the early 20th century, right?
Lumber, cotton, textile industry lobbying by creating new term for the hemp plant calling it Marijuana and getting Congress to outlaw the plant 100% by a smear campaign that Congress didn't understand. They thought they were outlawing a new drug.
Despite the fact that hemp can be made into paper, clothing, medicine, rope, boards, fabric, oils, and on and on, no one is allowed to use or experiment with any of it because a specific type of the plant can be used to get high. A high, by the way, with almost 0 side effects, 0% physical addiction, and 0% chance of overdose.
Nevermind the fact that the shittiest weed to smoke is the best weed to use for paper, fabric, etc...
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:26 pm to Sentrius
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Ohio is not conservative.
It's a political bellwether. It's literally the Center State; how else do they decide who gets into the Oval Office so frequently every four years?
It may not be solid red compared to Alabama, but it's a Midwest state chock full of social conservatives who are anti-pot; people who don't know the difference between pot and heroin. I don't get the sense there's as strong of a legalization movement there as opponents of this bill like to think. Hopefully I'm wrong. I'm not an Ohio expert.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:29 pm to Breesus
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A high, by the way, with almost 0 side effects, 0% physical addiction, and 0% chance of overdose.
I had a Facebook discussion with a reserve cop the other day who simply could not accept that pot is non-toxic and practically non-addictive. No matter what logic I used, no matter what scientific links I provided, he insisted it's a dangerous gateway drug that destroys families. There's a lot of people like him. Fortunately most are old.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:38 pm to biglego
It's a gateway drug because you have to deal with drug dealers to get it. And you have to do it illegally, so if you do it often chances are you are either hanging out with drug dealers or other people who do illegal drugs and thus it increases the chances you interact with stronger narcotics and the chances you try them.
It's a gateway drug because it is illegal.
People who think THC puts the thought in your brain that you must try other drugs can't listen or reason because they base their opinions on the belief that when you set a plant on fire it focuses some kind of mind control over anyone who breathes the smoke. That's the most illogical thing I've ever heard.
It's a gateway drug because it is illegal.
People who think THC puts the thought in your brain that you must try other drugs can't listen or reason because they base their opinions on the belief that when you set a plant on fire it focuses some kind of mind control over anyone who breathes the smoke. That's the most illogical thing I've ever heard.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:43 pm to Breesus
I don't disagree with your point that legalizing weed would be a net positive for society, but the argument "dude it's just a plant how can it harm anyone" is really stupid. I mean there are plenty of plants that are dangerous, and there are plenty of chemicals that are harmless.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:45 pm to Breesus
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It's a gateway drug because you have to deal with drug dealers to get it
This idiot even acknowledged this. But he just couldn't take the next logical step to say legalization would solve this. Just couldn't do it. And he and people like him vote in droves.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:47 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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but the argument "dude it's just a plant how can it harm anyone" is really stupid. I
I agree. That statement by itself is stupid.
But the scientific impossibility to overdose, the fact that it is not physically addictive, and the fact that it is healthier than alcohol or nicotine, the most popular recreational legal drugs, coupled with the benefits to the medicine, textiles, paper, buildings, plastics industries makes it absolutely insane to keep illegal.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:48 pm to biglego
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non-addictive
Again, not saying it shouldn't be legalized or that it isn't cool, but come on now that's just false to say it's non-addictive. We all know plenty of smokers who aren't exactly in control. It's not heroin, but you can't honestly say it's not addictive.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:48 pm to Breesus
In a world where alcohol and tobacco are legal, it should absolutely be legal. 100%.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:59 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Again, not saying it shouldn't be legalized or that it isn't cool, but come on now that's just false to say it's non-addictive. We all know plenty of smokers who aren't exactly in control. It's not heroin, but you can't honestly say it's not addictive.
It's not physically addictive. Heroin is. When you do heroin it changes the way your brain works and you can't function without it. You can literally physically die from heroin withdrawals.
Nicotine is actually more addictive than heroin but if you took the same amount it would kill you because it's many more times poisonous. But Nicotine does the same thing. It changes the way your brain works and thus your brain loses functionality without the Nicotine.
Nothing happens to you if you quit smoking pot.
People can get in the habit of smoking pot. Habits are hard to break.
People cannot be addicted to pot anymore than they can be addicted to video games. Mentally, habitually, emotionally they can. Physically? No.
Caffeine and Nicotine are physically addicting and far more harmful in every way.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:03 pm to biglego
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conservatives who are anti-pot; people who don't know the difference between pot and heroin.
Heroin is a big problem in Ohio & N. Kentucky.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:05 pm to RummelTiger
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The real loser here is poor Nick Lachey...
The guy who got to repeatedly frick Jessica Simpson at her absolute hottest will never be a loser in my book.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:07 pm to Breesus
Have you never been a heavy weed smoker? Like smoke it all day every day?
Because anyone who has can tell you that it's addictive.
Again, I'm not saying it shouldn't be legal, but let's be honest about it.
Because anyone who has can tell you that it's addictive.
Again, I'm not saying it shouldn't be legal, but let's be honest about it.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:14 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Have you never been a heavy weed smoker? Like smoke it all day every day?
I have, but it really wasn't that hard to quit. It wasn't easy, but it certainly wasn't hard enough to call it "addictive."
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:15 pm to DallasTiger11
Several high profile individuals like Nick Lachey and Oscar Robertson to name a couple were in cahoots with lawmakers to have a monopoly whereby they controlled the entire process from growing to harvesting to distribution to retailers. Ten investment groups who went all in to buy off corrupt legislators who were likely promised skin in the game.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:17 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Have you never been a heavy weed smoker? Like smoke it all day every day?
Yes. Have you?
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Because anyone who has can tell you that it's addictive.
A huge amount of people would disagree. As would many scientists, doctors, psychologists, and pharmacists.
Did you even read my post? It's not physically addicting.
Like working out, video games, etc..
It can be emotionally or habitually addictive, but it is not a physically addictive drug.
Nicotine and heroin are examples of physically addictive drugs. Your body loses its ability to function without them and must repair itself when the drug is taken away. THC doesn't do that.
That's not an opinion and it's not arguable.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:18 pm to Dick Leverage
quote:They don't even feel the need to try and hide it any more. Sad.
Several high profile individuals like Nick Lachey and Oscar Robertson to name a couple were in cahoots with lawmakers to have a monopoly whereby they controlled the entire process from growing to harvesting to distribution to retailers. Ten investment groups who went all in to buy off corrupt legislators who were likely promised skin in the game.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Canadian government put heavy pressure on border states central and east, leave the pot out west. Eh' Canada?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:31 pm to Sentrius
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So disappointed in you.
Don't ever call yourself a conservative ever again.
Why are you surprised? He's a neo con cuckservative that loves Jeb Bush and Chris Christie. Thankfully he is part of the GOP that are dying off.
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