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re: Anyone Here Tried Carb Backloading?
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:28 am to wope
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:28 am to wope
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No need to make things complicated.
I don't think it is complicated.
If you think it's too complicated, then don't worry about it. Do what works for you, and pump the brakes on telling other people what they should be doing.
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If you want to lose weight
I don't. What really interests me about carb backloading is that some people report making muscle/strength gains while also reducing body fat. I'm talking about guys who train very intensely. I wouldn't recommend it for people who don't lift weights intensely. This isn't going to be for everyone for various reasons.
I wasn't looking for advice here. I wanted to hear about people's experiences with carb backloading. I made that very clear in the OP. Different people respond to different training/nutrition programs in different ways, so I want to hear about different people's experiences before I try it.
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:22 am to inadaze
I'm currently following the "carb nite" protocol, Kiefer's other program. I did standard ketogenic diet for a year, then switched to carb night a couple weeks ago. My purpose for changing up was to reset hormones like leptin and ghrelin from extended periods of deficit. So far so good.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:27 am to inadaze
There's nothing wrong with it if your workouts are centered around the afternoon/evening with you progressing carb intake after your workout only. The general idea is that carbs will be better partitioned after exercise and stored as gylogen.
I still think total calorie intake for the day and macro nutrients are the key roles in body competition. When looking at it from an outsider's perspective it's very similar to what people do with intermittent fasting in that they get 95% of calorie intake post workout. I don't think there's anything wrong with practicing it per say but the benefits aren't as extreme as websites make it out to be.
I still think total calorie intake for the day and macro nutrients are the key roles in body competition. When looking at it from an outsider's perspective it's very similar to what people do with intermittent fasting in that they get 95% of calorie intake post workout. I don't think there's anything wrong with practicing it per say but the benefits aren't as extreme as websites make it out to be.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:33 am to inadaze
The fact that you think it is somehow possible to reduce body fat while gaining muscle at the same time shows how very little you know about fitness and nutrition.
Good luck with your fad diet.
Good luck with your fad diet.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:52 am to inadaze
nutrient timing is irrelevant.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:53 am to inadaze
I've frontloaded carbs daze..........everything I've read about it made more sense to me because I don't workout till the late afternoon after work.....
What gave me better results was intermittent fasting.......I've shed more weight with that than anything else.
What gave me better results was intermittent fasting.......I've shed more weight with that than anything else.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 7:56 am
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:02 am to inadaze
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According to Kiefer, the most well-known promoter of carb backloading (I wouldn’t say the creator of the method though, as the idea has been around since Arnold’s time), this style of dieting takes advantage of the natural daily fluctuations in insulin sensitivity in muscle and fat cells, as well as the exercise-induced increase in insulin sensitivity in muscle cells.
You see, research shows that insulin sensitivity in both muscle and fat cells is higher in the morning than the evening, which means that both muscle and fat cells will be more receptive to glucose earlier in the day. This is good in the case of muscle (more glucose absorbed into the muscles = better performance in the gym), and bad in the case of fat (more glucose absorbed into the fat cells = more fat storage).
The basic premise of carb backloading is you use these mechanisms to your advantage by not eating carbs when your body is most able to store them as fat (early in the day). Instead, you eat carbs when your body is most likely to store them as glycogen in the muscles (later in the day, after working out).
The post-workout point is important: you use weightlifting later in the day to deplete glycogen stores and increase insulin sensitivity in the muscle cells, but not the fat cells, so when you then start eating carbs, your body preferentially shuttles them into the muscles, not fat cells.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:44 am to Phat Phil
I think it is important to note that refined carbs should still be avoided like the plague regardless of time, and the best source of carbs should be non-processed fruits and vegetables as opposed to grains, rices, pastas, etc.
Also, it is funny to see how opposite this is to conventional thinking, e.g. eat this big arse bowl of carbs or this bread filled with carb-stuffing as soon as you wake up, ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAL OF THE DAY!!!! hahaha
Also, it is funny to see how opposite this is to conventional thinking, e.g. eat this big arse bowl of carbs or this bread filled with carb-stuffing as soon as you wake up, ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAL OF THE DAY!!!! hahaha
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:44 am to iAmBatman
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Get ready for mouton to spout of some peer reviewed broscience
You have made comments like this before but cant ever seem to give examples of said bro science that I have ever spouted.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:45 am to Phat Phil
I carb load before a workout too, tho
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:50 am to Phat Phil
calories in vs. calories out is the most important factor, but hormones (such as insulin) plays more than negligible part too imo.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:52 am to Phat Phil
I'd take as much testosterone supplement as possible but at the same time I'm worried about hair thinning.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:54 am to Phat Phil
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calories in vs. calories out is the most important factor, but hormones (such as insulin) plays more than negligible part too imo.
Calories in vs. calories out is definitely not the most important factor as different foods provide different "types" of calories. 2000 calories of refined sugar and omega-6 fatty acids =/= 2000 calories of a well-balanced diet. The physiological fates of the foods we eat are the most important factors.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:56 am to guedeaux
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Calories in vs. calories out is definitely not the most important factor
Yes, it is
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:01 am to iAmBatman
Im waiting for examples.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:04 am to guedeaux
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Calories in vs. calories out is definitely not the most important factor as different foods provide different "types" of calories. 2000 calories of refined sugar and omega-6 fatty acids =/= 2000 calories of a well-balanced diet. The physiological fates of the foods we eat are the most important factors.
realistically most people won't eat just 2000 calories of refined sugar as their only meal though.
some will eat "clean" and have more balanced diet and some will eat more junk fast food. but in general, at the end of the day calories in vs calories out should be the most important factor in losing weight because most people will eat a combination of protein, carb, and fat.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 9:06 am
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:08 am to iAmBatman
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Yes, it is
What a definitive and well-resourced response. You have demonstrated a clear grasp of biochemistry and human metabolism.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:09 am to guedeaux
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Calories in vs. calories out is definitely not the most important factor as different foods provide different "types" of calories. 2000 calories of refined sugar and omega-6 fatty acids =/= 2000 calories of a well-balanced diet. The physiological fates of the foods we eat are the most important factors.
to a certain extent and this does not apply to everyone. I'm convinced there are people who's body handles fruity pebbles the same way it would brown rice and asparagus.
I believe macro based diets (while keeping sugars in check) are the best way to achieve your physique goals. I think they get a bad rap because of limited info people put out on social media. You have to eat clean nearly every meal to maintain a good macro balance. Some idiot sees some fitness guru on facebook eating pizza and ice cream and believes he can get shredded eating shite like that all the time.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:10 am to Phat Phil
Does carb loading help people like me who want to build mass?
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:10 am to guedeaux
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