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re: Anyone Familar With This Heart Defect?

Posted on 1/15/14 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 4:20 pm to
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you just need to have yearly cardiac ultrasounds done to make sure the mitral regurgitation isnt getting worse or your left atrium isnt enlarging.


Thanks for the advice.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 4:21 pm to
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Anyway, anyone else have any insight or experience they can give me here?


The tissue in your valve is 'floppy.' They'll watch it over time, and it will probably never affect you. If it becomes so floppy that blood backs up through it, they will worry about it then (not necessarily going to eventually occur).
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 4:24 pm to
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This is what prompted me to visit my Dr today. I woke up with this the other night. Actually thought for a minute I was having a heart attack. I came close to waking up my wife and having her take me to the ER but it settled down after a few minutes.


I'd have these quick beat flutters followed by a disturbingly long pause (no heart beating) and then a booming contraction in my chest.

I hauled arse to the ER after a few rounds of that.
It's amazing how fast you get admitted when you say you're having heart issues.

Also, wanted to point out that the doctor said that typically the condition results in no symptoms, but I unknowingly had Pneumonitis that was diagnosed during my chest x-rays. He said that illness probably temporarily exacerbated the heart condition.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 4:59 pm to
I was diagnosed with this at 16. Never stopped me from doing anything. I did cut back in caffeine intake bc that can cause some "attacks" which just felt like a tightness in my chest and then a small "pop" feeling. It didn't hurt, though.

The only thing that changed is that I now take antibiotics before having my teeth cleaned.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 5:04 pm to
I'm almost positive my step-mom died from this. I would ask my dad, but I doubt he remembers.

Does it cause blood to go back the wrong way in the heart? She had something that caused this. She went to bed with a headache and feeling tired and never woke up.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 6:54 pm to
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Does it cause blood to go back the wrong way in the heart?

No. That is mitral regurgitation. The blood back flow through the valve sets it apart from prolapse. Prolapse can be an incidental finding. Regurge is always pathological.
Posted by brbowhunter
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 7:52 pm to
sounds interesting.

i have some type of condition but dont know what.

every now and then i feel my heart beat weirdly. i was told by a doctor some people can feel their heart beat. but i get a shock type feel a few times a month and it scares me.

anyone know anything? im a 28 year old male.
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:05 pm to

Someone asked the same question the other day and this is the response I gave them.


I had my mitral valve replaced in November of 2005, because of Mitral Valve prolapse.

Discovered three years earlier in my annual physical by my GP as a heart murmur. Went to Cardiologist who followed me for three years saying that I would know when it needed to be done, but that it was getting worse every six months - verified with echo-cardiograms measuring leakage (called regurgitation) during the valve closed part of heart beat. When I had the procedure done I was at 80% regurgitation. I absolutely knew it was time. I could walk 50 yards and I'd have to stop somewhere in the middle to rest (out of breath).

They said I probably had some sort of infection that caused the top of the Mitral valve to deteriorate. Made it scalloped in shape causing it to not seal and then cause other problems with the shape of the valve, which made it worse still.

I had the surgery done on my birthday - in Birmingham at Brookwood (thoracic surgeon) Dr. Wade Lamberth - Maybe the best man I have ever known.

Drove from Meridian to Birmingham and went in hospital at 4:00 am that morning. Hospital staff thought it was a hoot that it was my birthday. Surgery started about 8:00 am. They had trouble waking me up after the surgery (2-3 hours) and I knew nothing that day. Woke up the next day hurting like crazy and feeling better (strength wise). Went home (Birmingham to Meridian, with wife driving, past Tuscaloosa during end of and Alabama game traffic) five days later and back at work (desk job) a week later.

I had a St. Jude Carbon fiber valve because Lamberth said I was too young for a pig valve. I take warfarin/coumadin to keep the valve from forming clots which will eventually break free and kill you. The drug makes me bruise, but otherwise no side effects - maybe a little tiredness when I push multiple 50 hour weeks at work.

I take a beta blocker (Toprol XL) to slow my heart down and decrease blood Pressure. I have the best blood pressure money can buy (105/85).

The valve works great. When it is really quiet I can hear it click each time it closes. Usually they ask me that question (can you hear it click) and when I say yes, they say "That is good".

I can answer whatever questions you may have and probably could figure out how we could talk if you will post some sort of e-mail address here.

Edited to add: I'm sure you know it is Major-Major surgery. I wouldn't just go to ,y local hospital and let anyone do it. I would find someone I really trust (doctor wise) and get recommendations before letting someone cut my heart open and replace an internal valve.

Good luck man - hope things work out for you.

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Posted by brbowhunter
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:22 pm to
so you had the same feeling im having?

like a jolt of something going through your body every now and then?

what did you feel to go get checked out by the doc?
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:26 pm to
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Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:39 pm to
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so you had the same feeling im having?


Nope - never felt anything at all before the day when my doctor looked strangely at me and said, "When was the last time you had your heart murmur looked at?" I said "I don't have a heart murmur." and he said "Oh yes you do."

The absolute truth - at my annual physical one year earlier he heard nothing. We are good friends and he later told me it scared him to death, because he had never heard it (from me) before and he immediately wondered how he had missed it because it was very strong.

Three years later, after four or five echocardiograms a heart cath and a bunch of other tests, I had grown so tired (because I had 80% regurgitation by then) that I knew it was time to have the valve replaced.

When my GP initially discovered the murmur, he said it might never get any worse. The trouble was - for me - it did get worse. Every six months it was worse. The echocardiogram allows them to see and measure the regurgitation and every time they did one, it had grown worse. For the first 50 something years of my life, I had no murmur at all.

By the way, your mitral valve has two leaves like the Miter hat a Catholic bishop wears. The Aortic valve has three leaves. When you have severe prolapse and it is leaking like a sieve, that matters little at all.

Good luck. Hopefully it won't get worse.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14962 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:50 pm to
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Been taking a beta blocker (Lisinopril) for years without any restrictions or symptoms.


Lisinopril is an ACEi. Are you taking something that ends with "-olol," too (the generic name, that is. Not the brand name)? Those are your Beta blockers (many people are on both, very different side effect profile is why I ask).
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:53 pm to
I take Toprol XL.

Gives me the best blood pressure money can buy. Nice slow heart beat, too.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14962 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:02 pm to
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I take Toprol XL.

Gives me the best blood pressure money can buy. Nice slow heart beat, too.


That stuff will slow the ol' ticker down a ton. Lots of people that take it feel like crap is why I asked. Good that it is working for you and you are happy with it, though. Can't ask for much more than that
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:07 pm to
Is metoprolol one? I took it for a couple weeks & loved it but the dr told me to stop taking it

How does it make you feel like crap? I wish I could figure out how to be put back on it
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14962 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:14 pm to
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Is metoprolol one? I took it for a couple weeks & loved it but the dr told me to stop taking it
How does it make you feel like crap? I wish I could figure out how to be put back on it

Metoprolol is, indeed one (Toprol XL is actually a specific form of Metoprolol). Dizziness, fatigue, diarrhea, rashes, and depression are all really common with it. I like to think of it like this: think of all the little times throughout the day your heart wants to 'speed up' (excited, nervous, etc). It isn't able to with the drug there, so from there you can think about each body part and what it would feel like if it were working at partial strength. It's not a perfect way to think about it, but a lot of times when the body isn't able to so what it thinks it should do, you feel 'off' somehow or another.

Do you remember why you were on it and why you were taken off (you don't have to share...pretty personal stuff...I am just a little curious as to your being on and off it so quickly)?
Posted by Relham10
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:15 pm to
Yea my wife has had it all her life. They discovered she had it when she was 4 years old. No big deal just takes her meds (toporal, I think) and she feels fine. Sometime she will feel it but she will just go to dr and they tweak her meds.
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:18 pm to
I don't remember the exact reason she put me on it. It was an endocrinologist that I went to have my low tsh checked by. Maybe because my bp & pulse were high

It just made me so calm. Then when I went back the next week my tsh was normal & she told me to stop taking it
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21922 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:20 pm to
My mom was diagnosed with that 25 years ago. Something about a valve not closing qiite right. She's still healty and kicking.
Posted by thegodfajha
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2007
314 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:20 pm to
My grandfather had it. He died..... He was only 90. I have it as do both of my brothers and i would bet my dad does as well. You should be fine. I hope
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