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re: Anybody a Shriner?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:50 pm to CoachChappy
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:50 pm to CoachChappy
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Mainly because they don't let us in.
That is not true Coach.
The Masons don't care if you are Catholic or not but the Catholic Church is very much opposed to you being a Mason.
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The Church has imposed the penalty of excommunication on Catholics who become Freemasons. The penalty of excommunication for joining the Masonic Lodge was explicit in the 1917 code of canon law (canon 2335), and it is implicit in the 1983 code (canon 1374).
Because the revised code of canon law is not explicit on this point, some drew the mistaken conclusion that the Church's prohibition of Freemasonry had been dropped. As a result of this confusion, shortly before the 1983 code was promulgated, the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a statement indicating that the penalty was still in force. This statement was dated November 26, 1983 and may be found in Origins 13/27 (Nov. 15, 1983), 450.
I doubt you find a single Mason any where that agrees with Catholic answers on the Masons being an enemy of the Catholic Church.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:14 pm to Twenty 49
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Washington Post had a great article about Masons and Shriners in 2001 that described the history and addressed how young folks are no longer as interested in such organizations.
I live here and have toured the lodge on 16th street. It's very nice and IMHO one of DC's "hidden treasures".
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:26 pm to foshizzle
Catholics, Jews, Muslims, any man 18 or older who believes in a Supreme Being can petition a Masonic Lodge for membership.
Several years ago, some Baptist minister who had been a Mason started a movement against Freemasonry, claiming it to be of the devil, lucifer, etc.
I've been a Mason since I turned 21 (the old minimum age requirement) and have gone through both the York and Scottish Rites. I've never joined the Shrine simply because my father (a Mason) never did as he couldn't afford it. Back then they demanded a lot of money from members to fund the various Shriners Hospitals, burn centers, etc.
I've never known of a Masonic Lodge, and I've attended dozens around the country, who worshipped anyone other than a Supreme Being (God).
I've never seen any shenanigans going on at any Lodge nor have I seen some of the crazy stuff you hear or read about.
The main reason Masonry has lost a lot of membership is one, back in the day, during the heyday, we did not have 24 hour TV and all the other stuff folks have to do today.
It's easy to be critical of an organization if you don't know anything about it.
I've seen thousands of dollars raised by Masons to aid the sick, those in need, and especially children in need.
Once when I was a kid, and again my father was a Mason, the richest man in town owned a sawmill. When someone (black, white, rich, poor) suffered a housefire, he'd give them enough lumber to rebuild.
If a family, Masonic or not, was down, out, hungry, etc., Masons would pass the hat to help them whether or not they were connected to Masonry or not.
So, having bored you with my thoughts, simply put, Freemasonry is a noble and glorious organization that never asks for publicity for the many things they do for folks.
Several years ago, some Baptist minister who had been a Mason started a movement against Freemasonry, claiming it to be of the devil, lucifer, etc.
I've been a Mason since I turned 21 (the old minimum age requirement) and have gone through both the York and Scottish Rites. I've never joined the Shrine simply because my father (a Mason) never did as he couldn't afford it. Back then they demanded a lot of money from members to fund the various Shriners Hospitals, burn centers, etc.
I've never known of a Masonic Lodge, and I've attended dozens around the country, who worshipped anyone other than a Supreme Being (God).
I've never seen any shenanigans going on at any Lodge nor have I seen some of the crazy stuff you hear or read about.
The main reason Masonry has lost a lot of membership is one, back in the day, during the heyday, we did not have 24 hour TV and all the other stuff folks have to do today.
It's easy to be critical of an organization if you don't know anything about it.
I've seen thousands of dollars raised by Masons to aid the sick, those in need, and especially children in need.
Once when I was a kid, and again my father was a Mason, the richest man in town owned a sawmill. When someone (black, white, rich, poor) suffered a housefire, he'd give them enough lumber to rebuild.
If a family, Masonic or not, was down, out, hungry, etc., Masons would pass the hat to help them whether or not they were connected to Masonry or not.
So, having bored you with my thoughts, simply put, Freemasonry is a noble and glorious organization that never asks for publicity for the many things they do for folks.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:33 pm to I B Freeman
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Highly charitable, do a lot of good things no one knows ab
Absolutely. I dealt with the Freemasons for the great flood of LA this year. They spent over 1 million in disaster recovery by donating building materials so folks can rebuild their homes in the BR area. Incredible people.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:06 pm to Supermoto Tiger
Like some of the previous posters have stated, both organizations do great works. My grandfather was both a mason and a Shriner. My impression is that it takes up a lot of a person's time. That's why that vast majority of members are retirees.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:03 pm to I B Freeman
I am a Mason. You have to be a Mason t be a a shriner.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:07 pm to I B Freeman
I think like a lot of Fraternal organizations like Knights of Columbus, Elks, Masons etc, the enrollment has dipped. When I was a kid, everyone's dad seemed to be a KofC member, now not so much. Most college fraternities are based of of Masonry and its charges.
A lot of the propaganda against masons is unfounded, but highly entertaining.
A lot of the propaganda against masons is unfounded, but highly entertaining.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:07 pm to winkchance
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:06 pm
quote:well, that's random
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:10 pm to I B Freeman
I'm Catholic so I can't be a mason.
They're basically a hate group.
They're basically a hate group.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:11 pm to winkchance
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everyone's dad seemed to be a KofC member, now not so much
I'm a 3rd degree Knight.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:12 pm to I B Freeman
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Anybody a Shriner
Are you a traveling man?
FIFY
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:27 pm to winkchance
quote:I was really saddened to attend a KofC dinner that they'd put on for my son's Cub Scout troop. The Knights were guys in their 70's and 80's and very few in number. I grew up playing KofC sports, going to KofC Summer camp, and going with my dad to the KofC hall to shoot basketball and to shoot pool.
I think like a lot of Fraternal organizations like Knights of Columbus, Elks, Masons etc, the enrollment has dipped. When I was a kid, everyone's dad seemed to be a KofC member, now not so much.
quote:Amazing how similar fraternity rituals are, even though each one claims to have a very unique origin (The Crusades, Civil War, Italian Rennaisance, etc.)
Most college fraternities are based of of Masonry and its charges.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:28 pm to I B Freeman
I grew up next to a Shriner. Was awesome to watch him get his tiny mini-bike primed for each parade. He'd clean it up and take a spin around our street. Once in a blue moon he'd let us ride it.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:37 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Amazing how similar fraternity rituals are
Not just similar. In some instances, it's word for word between the fraternity and Masonic rituals; in others, the words may differ, but the symbology is identical. When you look back at the founders of many American college fraternities, you're looking at Freemasons.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:06 pm to Rebel
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I'm Catholic so I can't be a mason.
Yes you can. There are a lot of masons that are Catholic.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:15 pm to ByteMe
Not any proper Catholics. I want nothing to do with the masons.
Besides, I'm not even Scottish.
Besides, I'm not even Scottish.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:36 am to Fewer Kilometers
I think the idea of people leaving their house on a regular basis to sit and talk with actually humans is something that was common place in the early to mid 1900s. The Lodge or Hall was a place to socialize and engage in activities that would better the community and also build camaraderie. I think the lack of this is the reason so many people have difficulty with people they may disagree with, they don't have the coping skills to interact with people who are not exactly like them or think exactly like them. They become triggered and act out instead of think, engage, accept or get over it.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:56 am to I B Freeman
My Grandfather was a Mason and one of my Uncle's is now. When we cleaned out the family home after my Grandmother passed, he found his Father!s Masonic materials. Ihe became pretty emotional about them.
Early in my career, I worked for the Florida Department of Corrections as a Parole Officer. Much of the upper management of that organization were Masons at the time. I'm pretty sure that if you were or would become a Mason while working ther, they would take good care of you.
Early in my career, I worked for the Florida Department of Corrections as a Parole Officer. Much of the upper management of that organization were Masons at the time. I'm pretty sure that if you were or would become a Mason while working ther, they would take good care of you.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:00 am to I B Freeman
No but I have a minibike I use for parades......
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:08 am to CoachChappy
Not true. I am one of many Catholic Masons. I have been Master of two different lodges. We require that you believe in God. Your faith is your business.
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