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re: Any physician assistants on here ?

Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
1979 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:49 pm to
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Not all PAs work in a 3rd world hospital baw.


Level 1 trauma centers are 3rd world?

Thanks for the tip.

Posted by warr09
Georgia by way of Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
800 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:49 pm to
Was 1 year ICU. My wife was a NICU nurse for 6 years before applying to anesthesia school. Out of 3, 2 accepted her. The one that didn't said she needed ICU experience. The other two accepted the neonatal experience. She got her masters from Medical College of Georgia. Which I believe they actually shut down their anesthesia program recently
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:51 pm to
Simple math.

You sound like a quack. Where did you go to med school and what hospital do you work at? I want to be sure to stay clear of both places.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5673 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:53 pm to
Dude you were talking about nurses doing shift work at the hospital. You did not mention becoming an NP or CRNA which obviously has greater autonomy/pay after significantly more schooling. Why are you so mad/defensive?
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25737 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:54 pm to
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Big Block Stingray

So you probably work in an ER outside of this state? You do realize there are other specialties out there. Less than 10% of PAs work in emergency medicine.
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4718 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:19 pm to
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I sat next to your picture in class for a whole year!! Haha.


That's hilarious.
Posted by MCrun2
Member since Mar 2004
473 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:11 pm to
Completely false

I'm an ER PA with full benefits, 401k matching, and only have to work 3 days a week (no nights) but choose to work 4 days a week and make well over 100k a year (>100k just on the 3 days). And zero difference between NPs and PAs in the ER

Earlier I believe he was talking about more autonomy for PAs over nurses and not NPs. Autonomy between NPs and PAs in real life is pretty much the same.

Leave the PA information to the actual PAs, not the people who obviously have something against PAs

As for C.Diff - sounds like the antibiotic the PA gave you for the sinus infection caused the C.Diff (side effect that could not have been prevented. Just happens sometimes). And yes the treatment for C.Diff is more antibiotics. Basically the first killed off your good bacteria and let bad bacteria replace it. The 2nd round of antibiotics helped kill the bad and allow the good back in. Just be glad it wasn't resistant and they have to do a Fecal Transplant
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 2:23 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:42 pm to
I work m-th...no OT, no weekends and no holidays. I don't get paged regarding pts once I clock out. I have a fully funded pension, free healthcare for my whole family, 403B and 457 plans, 10 paid holidays a year, and a kick arse pto/sick accrual. My quality of life as an RN would at minimum be as good as a PA. To top it off I haven't wiped arse in years. Not all RN jobs are created equal.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25737 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:52 pm to
That is because you work in a state with an incredibly strong nursing lobby/union. California is basically one of a kind for the nursing profession.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95169 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:54 pm to
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. My quality of life as an RN would at minimum be as good as a PA
Your pay is nowhere in the ballpark though. He said quality of life + money isnt comparable, and it isnt. For an RN to make PA money it would take them working 4-5 12 hr shifts every week





ETA: If you are in CA than you get paid well as an RN because of a union. In any other state comparing an RN to a PA is ridiculous
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:56 pm to
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I'm an ER PA with full benefits, 401k matching, and only have to work 3 days a week


This is no doubt varies area to area, I'm in Texas and most PAs and MD's work for Emcare and they're are no benefits. You pay you and your family's insurance and has no investment options.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:00 pm to
I live in the bay so you are correct. Not all hospitals here are unionized but the pay for RNs is consistently higher than NP/PA. That only holds true here, however I was responding to the op's request for career advice not being disrespectful towards PAs. Bottom line for my educational investment my earnings/quality of life are exceptional.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95169 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:02 pm to
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I live in the bay so you are correct. Not all hospitals here are unionized but the pay for RNs is consistently higher than NP/PA. That only holds true here, however I was responding to the op's request for career advice not being disrespectful towards PAs. Bottom line for my educational investment my earnings/quality of life are exceptional.
Oh I agree. My wife is an Rn, and the quality of life she has is wonderful. Working 3 12s is the life
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:02 pm to
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For an RN to make PA money it would take them working 4-5 12 hr shifts every week


Not every PA is making $150k/yr, not even close to the average.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95169 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:03 pm to
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No every PA is making $150k/yr, not even close to the average.
PAs will make 85k easily in La. An RN is going to have to work a shite ton of OT to get there
Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
1374 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:05 pm to
My wife is a PA and loves what she does. If you want to go into the field and work in LA, go to a school in state (if you can get in). If you go to an out of state school, it'll be tough to get a job in LA.

Either way, the pay in LA is garbage compared to whats being offered in other states.
Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
1374 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:05 pm to
75K is the average, not 85.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:08 pm to
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PAs will make 85k easily in La. An RN is going to have to work a shite ton of OT to get there



What do you consider a "shite ton" ?

My GF was a ICU RN and made $43/hr, $53/hr on the weekends. She worked days but nights was $6 or $7/hr more.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:14 pm to
Unless you move out of the south. If you are college aged and consider leaving the area, the career horizon broadens. My post was simply stating that RNs can make excellent money, have fantastic work schedules and minimal responsibility (when off work). The op is considering options for additional education And career advancement with a less than stellar GPA.
Posted by Odinson
Asgard
Member since Apr 2014
2753 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:16 pm to
Nothing to debate here. Equal setting/location, equal hours, equal specialty:

PA & NP salary/benifits much >> RN ... with less labor intensitve duties and more respect.

Period. End of discussion.
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