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re: Any other OT engineers bringing a small library with them to PE exam Friday?

Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
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Wrong. Finishing law school doesn't make you a lawyer; it gives you a degree. Same with engineering. You have an engineering degree, but you aren't an engineer by law.


Would it settle your jimmies if everyone just called themselves E.I.T's instead?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:17 pm to
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Part II, theres much more leeway given to practicing unlicensed engineers than unlicensed attorneys. Google "Industrial Exemption" for further information.


There is literally one person in R & D here that I am aware has a PE in EE.

It's like almost a do it at your own time kinda thing here.

Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39000 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:19 pm to
The PEs stamp the signature page on front of the deliverable, but my analyses stand alone in that package with just my name on them, usually a reviewer as well (hardly ever a PE). I don't even have a mechanical engineering degree and I'm a mechancal engineer.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:20 pm to
Took the ChemE PE 7 years ago. And yep, I took a lot of books.

A booksack and an armful. If they still do the test downtown a cart/dolly could make for a very long walk as you will likely park in a parking garage.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:23 pm to
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I don't even have a mechanical engineering degree and I'm a mechancal engineer.

No. The engineer that stamps it is an engineer. That's why they stamp it and you don't.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:33 pm to
That's funny. I was hired after I corrected his work for a previous customer of ours. I knew the Code and the origins of the equations better than anyone who worked for him. If anything I'm the scientist that creates the analyses and dumbs them down for the engineers. Way down if possible.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40094 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:35 pm to
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If anything I'm the scientist that creates the analyses and dumbs them down for the engineers. Way down if possible.


Well Engineers are considered Applied Mathematicians.

I dont give any Math Majors shite. Those baws look into outer space (figuratively and literally) and pull shite out of their arse.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Wrong. Finishing law school doesn't make you a lawyer; it gives you a degree. Same with engineering. You have an engineering degree, but you aren't an engineer by law.


Tell that to all the engineers working in oil for example. There are many other industries where obtaining an engineering license is not required to be an engineer.

Civil is really the only big one where it is necessary since you are usually working on designs that the public will ultimately use.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:41 pm to
He's being an arse about this, but I'll admit it gets my jimmies rustled when I look on indeed and a hotel is hiring a "hospitality engineer"
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39000 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:42 pm to
Applied in the sense that y'all can't derive shite on your own. Every single hard subject in engineering, outside of controls and DSP, has an analogous science with PhDs that derive and create everything y'all use as fact.

I seent it.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2129 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:44 pm to
Real engineers (aka software engineers) don't need no PE. You're welcome for all the programs we build that essentially do your pseudo engineering jobs for you
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Applied in the sense that y'all can't derive shite on your own. Every single hard subject in engineering, outside of controls and DSP, has an analogous science with PhDs that derive and create everything y'all use as fact.


If its worth anything I still integrate and use derivatives to calculate the moment and shear functions, piecewise. I find it quicker than looking it up in a table. The person often reviewing my work hates me .
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39000 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:46 pm to
Gotdamn, Mathcad Prime is awesome. You frickers are geniuses.

Pisses me off that engineering Codes don't give a shite about units.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39000 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:48 pm to
You need Mathcad. You could show them shite that would blow their minds. Parametric studies go down the rabbit hole.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:09 pm to
I would hate you.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40094 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:14 pm to
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DSP,


Is all based off harmonics...

I mean you can model nth harmonics. Well at least memorize quite a few of them if that's your thing.

I took DSP as an elective. Fun class. I am assuming you mean DSP = Digital Signal Processing
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:13 pm to
So the (self proclaimed) "hardest degree field on the planet" allows unlimited open books for exams?

Sounds legit....
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12610 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:42 pm to
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So the (self proclaimed) "hardest degree field on the planet" allows unlimited open books for exams? Sounds legit....


Engineers don't memorize shite (I am terrible at memorizing). We don't see the same problem over and over. We need to know how to apply concepts to a vast array of problems to find solutions.

The reference material covers anything from specific codes or regulations to equations that are used for quite specific situations.

There's simply no good reason to remember everything. It's all about knowing where to find the information you need to be able to solve the given problem.
Posted by GeauxDoc
Highland Road
Member since Sep 2010
2541 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:44 pm to
It might have been heavy b/c you brought three of the same edition of the highway safety manual?
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