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re: Any other OT engineers bringing a small library with them to PE exam Friday?

Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:45 pm to


Would you like to memorize this shite for just one section of the test?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 7:11 pm to
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So the (self proclaimed) "hardest degree field on the planet" allows unlimited open books for exams? Sounds legit....


Once again the misguided belief that open book exams are all easy. I have taken open book oral and written exams where like the PE exam any type of reference material you wanted to lug in was allowed. Without a through understanding of the material and how to apply it, it would be impossible to pass the exam regardless of the reference material available. There is a lot more involved than memorizing and regurgitating facts and figures.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 7:19 pm to
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So the (self proclaimed) "hardest degree field on the planet" allows unlimited open books for exams?

Sounds legit....


Engineering isn't memorization. Cool post though.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 7:20 pm to
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It might have been heavy b/c you brought three of the same edition of the highway safety manual?


3 volumes.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 7:31 pm to
Haha I still remember those Laplace transforms. Made it out with a B. So glad that's over with.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:32 pm to
The hardest test I ever had was open book. Our normal class time was 8 to 915am...the test started at 5pm and went until 10 pm. No one left early.

The professor also told us we could bring any book we wanted, our cell phone to phone who ever we wanted, etc.

The test was a single sheet of paper with 3 questions. From the three questions my answers where 21 engineering paper pages of explanations and calculations.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12610 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:33 pm to
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The hardest test I ever had was open book. Our normal class time was 8 to 915am...the test started at 5pm and went until 10 pm. No one left early.

The professor also told us we could bring any book we wanted, our cell phone to phone who ever we wanted, etc.

The test was a single sheet of paper with 3 questions. From the three questions my answers where 21 engineering paper pages of explanations and calculations.


Well. . . . . Did you pass?
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 8:34 pm
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:57 pm to
I set the curve...I can test like a champ.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:58 pm to
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I set the curve


I forgot this is the O-T.
Posted by Goldwitapurplesack
In dah crack
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:03 pm to
Brothernlaw took it with just a calculator
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:14 pm to
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Taking civil/structural this Friday


You guys definately have the worst one, from what I’ve seen. A friend in civil who took it at the same time as me actually used a cooler with wheels to carry his books in, i saw guys with the little red wagon setup as well. All civils.

I took mine in control systems, only had 5 or 6 books and didn’t use all of them.

Look up the percentages on the test of what the questions will be derived from( I assume that is still available), that may help you to make an informed decision if you want to go lighter. I’d bring all I thought I might need. You’re better off having material you don’t need than needing one you don’t have. The book that helped me the most was one I got from a friend about a week before the test and I almost blew off bringing it.
Posted by Woodbird
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:15 pm to
If you aren’t familiar with PCI/AASHTO then leave it at home. Like someone else said, for the morning you’ll only need the CERM. Afternoon, you better bring everything else. There will certainly be a few obscure code lookups that are easy points if you have the codes but straight guesses if not. I’ll be one of the poor suckers sitting in the back of the room taking the SE (and yes, I’ll have what I consider to be a medium sized library with me).
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:40 pm to
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I’ll be one of the poor suckers sitting in the back of the room taking the SE (and yes, I’ll have what I consider to be a medium sized library with me).


You brave, poor soul. I will say my prayers.

Thats my next endeavour once I get past this one.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18285 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:43 pm to
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Like someone else said, for the morning you’ll only need the CERM

I know how to use the CERM but I haven't really needed it. Do the Testmasters notes kind of replace it for the most part?
Posted by Woodbird
Member since Jun 2017
262 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:48 pm to
They’ll probably cover the am pretty good. I didn’t take a class for the PE I just had a crap load of tabs in the CERM and knew where everything was. Really, if you’ve taken a practice test or two, you can already pretty much guess 2-3 types of questions you’ll likely be getting for each morning subdiscipline (water, transportation, geotech etc). One word of advice if you are using the CERM is to go to PPI’s website and print off the CERM index and put it in a 1” 3 ring binder. This way, you don’t have to keep flipping back to the back of the CERM to find what page everything is on. The index is actually pretty good.
Posted by Woodbird
Member since Jun 2017
262 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:56 pm to
Thanks. Hopefully I won’t still be trying to pass it by the time you’re taking it. This will by my 2nd shot at vertical. Passed the PE a few years ago first try. Walked out 99% confident I passed. Walked out of the SE in April 99% I failed and was right lol. Don’t have any experience with AASHTO and it’s about 1/5 of the SE morning session so that bit me in the butt last time. Feel pretty good about the am this time but the afternoon is tough due to time constraints. I finished both am and pm PE tests in about 3 hours and had time to go back and check etc. I could have had 6 hours on the SE pm and would still have been working lol. Bad news is if I pass...I have to start studying for lateral
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:59 pm to
The pay here in the SE hasn’t really adjusted for the SE. no way I could suffer through that for a 5% raise.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:02 pm to
I'm 5'10, chubby and balding, and I'm not worth a million bucks yet. So I'm not an OT superstar.
Posted by Woodbird
Member since Jun 2017
262 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:05 pm to
Yea that’s what keeps creeping into my mind. Where I work the policy is PE licensure is an automatic 10% raise. There’s no guarantee for anything for SE and I understand that since it’s really not required in most states, plus that would give structural guys two guaranteed raises for taking tests. But my manager is supportive of me pursuing it and I’m pretty sure it will be looked on favorably in the future for advancement so I guess that’s why I’m doing it other than just being stubborn and liking the challenge.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12984 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 11:34 pm to
Makes me happy to be electrical where all i need is my brain and the formula book
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