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re: Any of you ever dated a teacher before?
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:21 am to cbree88
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:21 am to cbree88
Meh. Teaching is a good occupation for a female if both parents are working. It can be tough if both parents have more high pressure jobs with deadlines; makes it easier to have 1 parent at least on the same schedule. We are both WFH/hybrid schedule and split pickup duties/management of kids until 5 pm. It is a PITA.
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:22 am to cbree88
Well, you're already bitching about her to strangers on the internet in hopes of validation, so it sounds like things are going really well between you two.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:25 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:26 am to cbree88
Seems to me like teachers are either solid wife material or the complete opposite
Very binary
Very binary
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:26 am to cbree88
TLDR: it’s not an either or situation. There’s a lot of gray and a lot of nuance.
For a long time teachers were the ultimate authority in the class room. I mean they had the support of both the school administration and the parents to educate and discipline students.
Over the past few decades there has been a shift to where now the administrations and parents now support the students as opposed to the teachers. It’s most evident in guidance departments now blatantly and openly asking teachers on the students behalf to change grades, allow late work, or offer bonus credit. You have administrations now not allowing students to fail, not allowing students to be expelled, and giving into the whims of parents that threaten to get on social
Media and air any and all dirty laundry.
The opening salvo of remote teaching during covid didn’t help either as most teachers were not prepped to teach or conduct class virtually as they had never done that before or been trained in doing so and then had to adjust curriculums overnight. That poor showing further emboldened some parents to proclaim teachers don’t do shite and don’t know shite and that homeschooling would be just as effective or better.
Rather than administrations supporting teachers and telling the parents to go ahead and try homeschooling, they groveled and submitted and essentially said you’re right, we will do something more to ensure your child is better educated and disciplined and it’s the teachers fault.
I’m not saying there aren’t bad teachers. I’m not saying there aren’t shitty schools. I’m not saying some teachers aren’t on an ideological bend to indoctrinate kids. I’m simply saying, the support dynamic between teachers, students, parents, and administrators has changed and not in a good way.
For a long time teachers were the ultimate authority in the class room. I mean they had the support of both the school administration and the parents to educate and discipline students.
Over the past few decades there has been a shift to where now the administrations and parents now support the students as opposed to the teachers. It’s most evident in guidance departments now blatantly and openly asking teachers on the students behalf to change grades, allow late work, or offer bonus credit. You have administrations now not allowing students to fail, not allowing students to be expelled, and giving into the whims of parents that threaten to get on social
Media and air any and all dirty laundry.
The opening salvo of remote teaching during covid didn’t help either as most teachers were not prepped to teach or conduct class virtually as they had never done that before or been trained in doing so and then had to adjust curriculums overnight. That poor showing further emboldened some parents to proclaim teachers don’t do shite and don’t know shite and that homeschooling would be just as effective or better.
Rather than administrations supporting teachers and telling the parents to go ahead and try homeschooling, they groveled and submitted and essentially said you’re right, we will do something more to ensure your child is better educated and disciplined and it’s the teachers fault.
I’m not saying there aren’t bad teachers. I’m not saying there aren’t shitty schools. I’m not saying some teachers aren’t on an ideological bend to indoctrinate kids. I’m simply saying, the support dynamic between teachers, students, parents, and administrators has changed and not in a good way.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:26 am to cbree88
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They’re also home by 3:00 every day
Where?
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:26 am to cbree88
From my experience, teachers and nurses are crazy!!! I have had experience with several of each and all of them have been certifiably, bat-shite crazy!!!
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:27 am to cbree88
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Any of you ever dated a teacher before?
Not since high school.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:28 am to cbree88
PIIHB
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:32 am to cbree88
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They’re also home by 3:00 every day and and get every weekend off.
I dated a teacher before I met my wife and this wasn’t the case for her….at all. She pretty much locked down during the week and made no plans at night. She was usually at the school until 4 or 5(after getting there around 7) and spent a lot of nights grading papers. She usually worked at least a few hours every weekend.
She also rarely complained and loved her job, but she was still young and hadn’t yet been jaded by it.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:34 am to cbree88
I am married to one. She doesn’t bitch and complain because she understands her “low” pay is because she has 16 weeks off per year and that the job is not that difficult compared to higher paying professions.
If you only work 75% of the year you can’t expect 100% pay for a job that isn’t hard to get.
$45k would be about $65-70k if they worked all year. That is a respectable salary for someone with an easy to acquire undergrad degree. The pay of teachers is reflected by the lifestyle advantages it provides.
Public school teachers who complain about pay are just people who want to have their cake and eat it too. Private is a different story I won’t address
If you only work 75% of the year you can’t expect 100% pay for a job that isn’t hard to get.
$45k would be about $65-70k if they worked all year. That is a respectable salary for someone with an easy to acquire undergrad degree. The pay of teachers is reflected by the lifestyle advantages it provides.
Public school teachers who complain about pay are just people who want to have their cake and eat it too. Private is a different story I won’t address
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:35 am to cbree88
I think women usually get into teaching because they honestly don't know what else to do. They do college for however many years in some other degree, decide they hate that, then just say frick it, I'll just go teach at an elementary. Find the first job they can find, then bitch about the work. I know a few women like that in our friend circle. They think it's an easy paycheck, then they realize there's a whole other aspect of dealing with kids all damn day.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:35 am to cbree88
quote:someone is slacking
she doesn’t get laid enough
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:38 am to Rize
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Not sure which are nuttiest, the teacher, the nurse or the hair dresser.
HR rep is up there too. I've also dated some pretty nutty CPAs and lawyers - there doesn't seem to be any shortage of nutty women in any field.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:38 am to cbree88
It's the worst when they just start back after summer break. It only takes a week for them to forget that they just had a whole summer off. During summer they get used to having all day to do minimal housework/hobby type stuff so when they have to go back to work they suddenly feel like they don't have any free time to do anything. Encourage her to get some sort of job during summer it'll help keep both of y'all sane.
ETA: don't sit down and calculate what their hourly pay is for the hours they are actually working for the year. it just makes them salty when it's higher than they realized.
ETA: don't sit down and calculate what their hourly pay is for the hours they are actually working for the year. it just makes them salty when it's higher than they realized.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:39 am to cbree88
The problem with teachers I’d seen in my earlier dating life was that many seemed to have an annoying air of overboard control, I suppose from spending several a day correcting, dictating and supervising kids that bled over into their personal life. Nah not my thing. Maybe it varies by the many different circumstances that teachers can be in though.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:43 am to cbree88
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Any of you ever dated a teacher before?
Dated? I married one. She's no longer a teacher, but the only things she complained about was the administration and parents. She taught in New Orleans East so she had some wild stories.
ETA: My wife always taught summer school, which was only a few weeks. She still got her roughly month beak, but still earned money during it.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:48 am to cbree88
Married one
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:49 am to Havoc
As a former teacher I will handle the batching
- low pay vs work
This has vhanged for many teachers and from what teachers are taught in school. Many teachers go I to the profession thinking you teach your subject area, you grade test, and you talk with parents then you are done. Now you have meetings 4 days a week so you have no off time during the day for lunch as all elementary school teachers each lunch with their kids. So districts taking away their planning period sucks. Now teachers are also tasked with doing data charts for every student and updating it either daily or weekly. You are also tasked with countless IEP's, behavioral plans, etc. The job went from low pay and not many expectations to low pay and much higher expectations, with those higher expectations and more work should be more pay. A teacher doesn't really get a bonus as each year depending on district you get a raise between 200-500 bucks. You get a small bonus for being exceptional at your job that can be 750 unless you teach at a TAP school (which is honestly more work)
- Respect
It has completely dissolved. Parents no longer respect teachers. Students no longer respect teachers. Administration no longer respects teachers. You can say some of it is brought on by teachers complaining but really it is brought on by a slow shift in how society views teachers. The bad ones hurt the good ones and it makes even the decent ones suffer.
There is a lot of I see teachers complaining about on my social media since I'm still friends with them and a lot dissolve into the amount of work they are asked to do and the lack of respect. I do see them wish summer break or Christmas break was longer but that is fricking everyone. Who takes a vacation and when it is over says, "I wish I was at work" so I don't see that as a complaint. I do believe teachers need a raise but I'm also of the belief that school should be longer during the year. Go for longer than the 182 days teachers are required to work (although with summer and before school stuff it became really 200) and make them work 215 or so.
I've read the comments from people over the years, "if I was in the classroom I'd make them do this or that." No, no you wouldn't or you would be fired and not last a day. Depending on grade level you are dealing with 20-100 students a day. Some fantastic and some little bad asses. 1 bad student can ruin a great classroom and as a teacher your hands are tied. You can't punish the child unless you take recess away. You can't send them out because after a "talk" they come right back and start again. So you are essentially stuck and when it happens, it sucks. Good and great teachers handle it better than poor teachers but all teachers get frustrated with it cbecause it ruins a good lesson and hinders the learning of everyone else.
- low pay vs work
This has vhanged for many teachers and from what teachers are taught in school. Many teachers go I to the profession thinking you teach your subject area, you grade test, and you talk with parents then you are done. Now you have meetings 4 days a week so you have no off time during the day for lunch as all elementary school teachers each lunch with their kids. So districts taking away their planning period sucks. Now teachers are also tasked with doing data charts for every student and updating it either daily or weekly. You are also tasked with countless IEP's, behavioral plans, etc. The job went from low pay and not many expectations to low pay and much higher expectations, with those higher expectations and more work should be more pay. A teacher doesn't really get a bonus as each year depending on district you get a raise between 200-500 bucks. You get a small bonus for being exceptional at your job that can be 750 unless you teach at a TAP school (which is honestly more work)
- Respect
It has completely dissolved. Parents no longer respect teachers. Students no longer respect teachers. Administration no longer respects teachers. You can say some of it is brought on by teachers complaining but really it is brought on by a slow shift in how society views teachers. The bad ones hurt the good ones and it makes even the decent ones suffer.
There is a lot of I see teachers complaining about on my social media since I'm still friends with them and a lot dissolve into the amount of work they are asked to do and the lack of respect. I do see them wish summer break or Christmas break was longer but that is fricking everyone. Who takes a vacation and when it is over says, "I wish I was at work" so I don't see that as a complaint. I do believe teachers need a raise but I'm also of the belief that school should be longer during the year. Go for longer than the 182 days teachers are required to work (although with summer and before school stuff it became really 200) and make them work 215 or so.
I've read the comments from people over the years, "if I was in the classroom I'd make them do this or that." No, no you wouldn't or you would be fired and not last a day. Depending on grade level you are dealing with 20-100 students a day. Some fantastic and some little bad asses. 1 bad student can ruin a great classroom and as a teacher your hands are tied. You can't punish the child unless you take recess away. You can't send them out because after a "talk" they come right back and start again. So you are essentially stuck and when it happens, it sucks. Good and great teachers handle it better than poor teachers but all teachers get frustrated with it cbecause it ruins a good lesson and hinders the learning of everyone else.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:52 am to cbree88
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This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 1:18 pm
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