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Anti-Dentites, what's the truth behind the "Deep Cleaning" scam?

Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:21 pm
Went to a new dentist and they made me stand in front of this newfangled machine, in 10 seconds they determine that I look to have some bone loss and will need a deep cleaning.... never even looked in my mouth before they made that determination. what kind of bull malarkey is that?
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:28 pm to
You have perio disease baw.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:30 pm to
this seems to be the latest money generating scam, at least for the dentists in my area, I had to cal BS on it when they tried to get me on their "program"
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:31 pm to
Regular dentist or periodontist??
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:32 pm to
They bombarded you with gamma rays. Prayers sent.
Posted by Huey Lewis
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:34 pm to
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Posted by Kel Varnsen
Member since May 2013
1975 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:39 pm to
I go to the dentist about once every 3-4 years. Never had a cavity. You baws just need to brush and floss more
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Regular dentist


hygienist, I think.
The girl who came and got me from the waiting area was the one who "x-rayed" and determined the deep cleaning before siting me in the chair to "confirm" her assumptions. And then said she can't do a regular cleaning, I must have the deep cleaning. So I walked.

Big facility, has like 5 receptionists.


Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45053 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:41 pm to
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I go to the dentist about once every 3-4 years. Never had a cavity.


Same here. Still told me and a co-worker we both had it and needed the "deep clean"

Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45053 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:41 pm to
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I go to the dentist about once every 3-4 years. Never had a cavity.


Same here. Still told me and a co-worker we both had it and needed the "deep clean"

Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28199 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:45 pm to
They have really turned into chiropractors, for the most part.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29254 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Went to a new dentist and they made me stand in front of this newfangled machine, in 10 seconds they determine that I look to have some bone loss and will need a deep cleaning.... never even looked in my mouth before they made that determination. what kind of bull malarkey is that?


did they take an xray? if it was an xray then they would be able to see bone loss/problems much better than just looking in your mouth

as if you didn't hate medicine enough already....
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:46 pm to
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I go to the dentist about once every 3-4 years. Never had a cavity. You baws just need to brush and floss more



that's me, I only went recently to temporarily silence the nagging,couldn't tell you the last time I had a cavity, the hygienist gets out her little pick and probes around every tooth and writes her measurements down, then approaches me as if she's about to tell me I have terminal cancer and the only hope is this rigorous frequent deep cleaning program, I started to tell her that I'd heard the same spiel 30 years ago and my gums are just fine, but she had the nicest tits so I signed up, what could I do?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:47 pm to
Have gone to the dentist every 6 months for 40 years, and are a flossing fanatic, had to change dentists and the new hygienist at the new office gave me the deep cleaning speech, I left and found another dentist.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:48 pm to
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Same here. Still told me and a co-worker we both had it and needed the "deep clean"


I imagine if they look hard enough in anyone's mouth they'll find some reason to bill you more. This sounds like their version of a full body scan.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29254 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:48 pm to
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A dental deep cleaning, or scaling and root planing, is needed in order to remove bacteria, calculus (tartar), and debris that has collected under the gum line. The presence of calculus under the gumline creates a safe haven for bacteria to collect, and cannot be removed by brushing, flossing or with a regular cleaning. The presence of this bacteria causes an immune response from the body. This immune response results in inflammation, to fight the bacterial infection. If left untreated, the infection and inflammation will continue and progress further under the gum line, resulting in loose teeth and bone loss, and ultimately, the loss of one or more teeth.


I'm not a dentist, but if you had calcified plaque under the gum line, the only way to visualize it would be by their so-called "newfangled machine". It would not be visible on clinical exam

ETA: not saying it's necessary, just stating the science behind it
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:49 pm to
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as if you didn't hate medicine enough already.


Your people!

quote:

Dr. Stephen Lim, who practices in mid-town Manhattan, says some deep cleanings are necessary to treat gum disease, but adds that some medical consulting firms advise dentists to offer deep cleanings to improve their bottom line. He says hygienists also perform deep cleanings, freeing the dentist to do more complex, and expensive, procedures. But Lim says practices that pay hygienists on commission, or offer bonuses for services they recommend, encourage unnecessary treatment. “Monetary incentives influence [hygienists] to overtreat,”
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:50 pm to
A few years ago I went to new dentists at a national chain. A "specialist" came in during the exam to test my gums. Determined that my gums were infected, and that I would need a special treatment not covered by insurance to wash my tooth gum interface with antibiotics.

They had all kids of promotional pamphlets in the waiting room for this proprietary $1500 miracle procedure.
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
2690 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:50 pm to
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Went to a new dentist


Which dentist? And why did you change dentist?
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