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re: And this is why aircraft go full throttle when landing on an aircraft carrier
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:08 pm to meauxjeaux2
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:08 pm to meauxjeaux2
It's also why the deck is angled to the left.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:09 pm to FLObserver
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Those guys on the deck were running from the expected explosion
Planes don't really explode when they hit the water.
The crew were running from the snapped cable (which will slice you in half)...They were also probably running to grab "man overboard" gear as well as sound the alarm that a plane just crashed
not to mention tending to the injured shipmates
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:13 pm to meauxjeaux2
It blows my mind that they make sailors stand in the cable retraction area still.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:19 pm to meauxjeaux2
Major props to the pilot, he had to fly that with perfect touch to keep from stalling out or just nose diving into the water.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:27 pm to meauxjeaux2
That is actually my cousin flying that plane, my dads sister's son, unfortunately I don't talk to him much.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:30 pm to PrivatePublic
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Major props to the pilot,
he did an awesome job, going down "on the deck," actually improved his situation by taking advantage of "ground effect," unfortunately he'll probably be disciplined by his CO for going below the hard deck
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:54 pm to 777Tiger
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unfortunately he'll probably be disciplined by his CO for going below the hard deck
Aww. He won't get credit for his kill?
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:04 pm to 777Tiger
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he did an awesome job, going down "on the deck," actually improved his situation by taking advantage of "ground effect," unfortunately he'll probably be disciplined by his CO for going below the hard deck
Could you explain what this means to a non pilot that grew up fascinated with naval aviation because of "victory at sea" on Sunday mornings. Thanks.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:10 pm to ruzil
ground effect
: the apparent increase in aerodynamic lift experienced by an aircraft when flying near the ground and observed up to a distance above the ground approximately equal to the wing span
on the deck is close to the surface(land or water,) he was flying when he went off the carrier deck but marginally, by going down to ground effect(less than the height of his wingspan,) he was able to get a little safety margin(energy on the wings,) to fly out of it
: the apparent increase in aerodynamic lift experienced by an aircraft when flying near the ground and observed up to a distance above the ground approximately equal to the wing span
on the deck is close to the surface(land or water,) he was flying when he went off the carrier deck but marginally, by going down to ground effect(less than the height of his wingspan,) he was able to get a little safety margin(energy on the wings,) to fly out of it
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:21 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:It's a very, very difficult task to be sure. They dump the ordnance when trapping on a carrier fwiw. Pretty cool to trap or cat off a flight-deck, though--even on the COD plane.
People see old footage of WWII carriers or Top Gun, and such and fail to realize that, unlike a standard landing on a 8k to 12k foot runway (looking real hard at you USAF pussy "pilots"), USN and USMC "aviators" have to literally crash on aircraft carriers in a controlled enough fashion to preserve the aircraft, ordnance and prevent injuries.
And very experienced pilots still bolt from time to time.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 4:54 pm to meauxjeaux2
That is one very very lucky Hawkeye crew. E-2's don't have ejection seats.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 5:24 pm to meauxjeaux2
I was on the Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71 in the early 90's. I was waking up in the middle of the night to go on watch in the engine room and all of a sudden there was a man overboard called. A hawkeye was coming in to land and overshot the deck and crashed in the water. All of the crew died. I think it was 5 if I remember correctly. We lost 7 total on that Med cruise. Man overboard from jet blast, and one person died in surgery.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 5:38 pm to LouisianaTigers
quote:How has this not received a single reply?
That is actually my cousin flying that plane, my dads sister's son, unfortunately I don't talk to him much
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:43 pm to Reservoir dawg
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That is one very very lucky Hawkeye crew. E-2's don't have ejection seats
For those of you in the know, if that Hawkeye had splashed and not pulled up, could the crew have escaped? And if so, how could they have accomplished this?
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I was on the Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71 in the early 90's. I was waking up in the middle of the night to go on watch in the engine room and all of a sudden there was a man overboard called. A hawkeye was coming in to land and overshot the deck and crashed in the water. All of the crew died.
Could they have made it out of there?
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:58 pm to Corch Urban Myers
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Could they have made it out of there?
Not sure. I would imagine that the impact is pretty violent and disorienting. Not sure how fast the plane sunk, or what the window is to get out before the point of no return.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:04 pm to ScrapPack
Since the carrier steams upwind during flight operations they would have been plowed under immediately.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:23 pm to LSU82BILL
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As Tony Montana refers to that aircraft.
"The EC2 with that satellite tracking chit"
FIFY
Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:26 pm to 777Tiger
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ground effect
: the apparent increase in aerodynamic lift experienced by an aircraft when flying near the ground and observed up to a distance above the ground approximately equal to the wing span
Also why gulls and some other sea birds sometimes coast right above waves with little to no flapping.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:37 pm to Corch Urban Myers
There is an emergency escape door on top of the aircraft, however, like the other posters said, it would be hard to survive this unscathed. The impact, the rising water, and the huge ship could cause you to drown very quickly. Many naval aviators lost their lives during WWII and Korea after going overboard. Before ejection seats were developed.
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