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re: 17 Years Ago the Columbine Massacre happened
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:34 pm to Dire Wolf
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:34 pm to Dire Wolf
Wow, that article really resonated. It made me realize that a lot of these kids are doing this stuff that starts out as playful, and before they know it, one of them is actually wielding a gun in school. When he said, "we didn't actually get that far, did we" shows how undeveloped the immature mind is.
Don't get me wrong, these kids definitely know what they're doing, but maybe they don't truly see the full effect because they're so young
Don't get me wrong, these kids definitely know what they're doing, but maybe they don't truly see the full effect because they're so young
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:45 pm to AU_251
They planned this shite at least a year in advance.. Took the time to attempt to learn how to make major explosives, and formed together a calculated plan which if would have worked would have been one of the largest massacres of modern history.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:46 pm to JBeam
quote:and i was in high school during this time... There were no dress codes so there were people that dressed like that at my high school. It was different before this happened.
All I can say is hindsight. I don't think anyone ever thought they were capable of doing this.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:49 pm to Javzz
I was in college when it happened, but my brother was still in high school. He would go hunting, leave his rifle in the truck and go to school, then leave and go back into the woods.
A week or so after Columbine, the school district put an end to that.
Columbine was tough to swallow, but Pearl, MS could have been much worse. That happened a couple years earlier. For those who dont remember, picked on kid shoots his mother, comes to school and kills a couple of people. Is reloading and an assistant principal pulls out a gun and holds it to his head - probably saving dozens.
Its surreal that once every year that Luke Woodham posts an ad in the paper asking for a pardon.
A week or so after Columbine, the school district put an end to that.
Columbine was tough to swallow, but Pearl, MS could have been much worse. That happened a couple years earlier. For those who dont remember, picked on kid shoots his mother, comes to school and kills a couple of people. Is reloading and an assistant principal pulls out a gun and holds it to his head - probably saving dozens.
Its surreal that once every year that Luke Woodham posts an ad in the paper asking for a pardon.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:51 pm to Cooter Davenport
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and look where it's at: Middle America
We need to keep those Middle Americans out of our part of the country.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:54 pm to RebelFreeze48
Wasn't it bullies?
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:59 pm to AU_251
quote:
When he said, "we didn't actually get that far, did we" shows how undeveloped the immature mind is. Don't get me wrong, these kids definitely know what they're doing, but maybe they don't truly see the full effect because they're so young
This is why it is so easy to amass an army of willing young men to go to their deaths in a foreign war. An immature mind thinks it is going to be a heroic adventure. Some people are motivated by duty, but let's be real - a lot of 18 year old guys think they're going to have a glorious adventure. An immature, but less virtuous, mind - of the type that Harris and Klebold had - concocts a plan like Columbine and thinks "we'll show everyone how bad arse and extreme we are, die in a blaze of glory, and be remembered forever, yarr!" And as stupid as it sounds to us as adults in our offices, to them it was a glorious idea they put a year of prep work into.
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:02 pm to anc
Pearl, MS could have been much worse?? The columbine kids tried to divert authorities away with an explosive, blow up the cafeteria, pick apart people escaping with guns and pipe bombs, and then finish it off with a bomb in the car to sabotage rescue authorities****
***- someone correct me if any of that is wrong, going from memory
***- someone correct me if any of that is wrong, going from memory
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:05 pm to GCTiger11
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I don't think they were bullied like you see in movies with kids being pushed into lockers. But they were definitely made fun of for how they looked.
A somewhat interesting thing about the high school they attended (which is about 30 minutes from where I currently live) is that there is pretty much no diversity. It's basically, a bunch of higher middle income white students, pretty much of the same economic and social status. There's not a huge dividing line between the rich and poor class.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:22 pm to Dignan
you should see the houses they lived in, especially the Kleblolds. Massive, tennis court in the pack, amazing scenic view, can't remember the specific name of the area in Littleton. They had jobs, cars, friends. The whole thing was just so stupid and pointless, pisses me off.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:53 pm to GCTiger11
This was a really interesting book. A bunch of information and background. The school papers, drawings, and journals were chilling at the end.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:00 pm to RebelFreeze48
yeah it's a pretty good read. Best not to take Cullen's word as gospel though. He'll have you thinking Harris was the most popular kid in school and Klebold was nothing but an easily persuaded emo.
Others' thoughts on the book
Others' thoughts on the book
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:02 pm to GCTiger11
Oh yeah. No doubt. I did a lot of research back and forth while reading this book. Ha
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:44 pm to RebelFreeze48
I read that book recently and live a few miles from Columbine. Kind of a slap in the face that all the media coverage is talking about 4/20 pot rallies and weed instead of the tragedy.
The memorial is a nice visit if you are ever in town and have any interest in this. Watched the special with Klebold's mother about a month or two ago. It's easy to forget about the parents of the killers who have no clue why their kids did what they did, and they also lost their kids.
All around shitty situation, but so fascinating to see what led up to these things.
The memorial is a nice visit if you are ever in town and have any interest in this. Watched the special with Klebold's mother about a month or two ago. It's easy to forget about the parents of the killers who have no clue why their kids did what they did, and they also lost their kids.
All around shitty situation, but so fascinating to see what led up to these things.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:50 pm to mailman
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:41 pm to Corch Urban Myers
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As the two youths returned to their vehicles, Harris encountered Brooks Brown, a classmate with whom he had recently patched up a longstanding series of disagreements. Brown was surprised to see Harris, whom he had earlier noted had been absent from an important class test. Harris seemed unconcerned when reminded of this fact by Brown, commenting, "It doesn't matter anymore." Harris then elaborated: "Brooks, I like you now. Get out of here. Go home." Brown, feeling uneasy, walked away.[36] Several minutes later, students departing Columbine for their lunch break observed Brown heading down South Pierce Street away from the school. Meanwhile, Harris and Klebold armed themselves by their vehicles and waited for the bombs to explode.
Now Brooks Brown should have immediately called the police but that goes to show you that you never know what someone is going through so you should be nice to everyone.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:42 pm to Corch Urban Myers
I always got nervous about the dates of April 19th and 20th. Especially after Waco and then Oklahoma City. But what these kids did changed how kids walked the halls of schools all over the country for years. I have heard of stories of kids skipping school just cause they were scared of a repeat attack . IMO this tragedy changed a lot about how schools were run across the country.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:43 pm to The Boat
kind of weird that today Anders Breivik has a ruling that his rights have been violated
that's the Swedish guy who killed like 77 people (69 shooting on and island and 8 via bombing)
he got 21 years
that's the Swedish guy who killed like 77 people (69 shooting on and island and 8 via bombing)
he got 21 years
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:51 pm to RebelFreeze48
Has there been any discussion regarding most of what is in the public consciousness re Columbine is made up bullshite?
They were not trench coat, Goth types.
They were not bullied.
They were fair to middling popular.
They didn't target anyone in particular.
The girl that was killed for believing in Jesus never happened.
Eric Harris was just a sociopath and a serial killer in the making.
They were not trench coat, Goth types.
They were not bullied.
They were fair to middling popular.
They didn't target anyone in particular.
The girl that was killed for believing in Jesus never happened.
Eric Harris was just a sociopath and a serial killer in the making.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:54 pm to mailman
Yeah, I'm assuming there was some underlying issues there. Most people who get bullied don't grab a gun and try to blow some shite up.
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