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re: Are there really more Americans of German ancestry than English ancestry?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Well I know I have German, Scots-Irish, English and Dutch. I don't know what else. My family is not particularly connected to any European culture. I would probably answer American. It's not really baloney
There are states in the upper south where "american" is the most common reported ancestry group. We know that is baloney.
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:46 pm to genro
I know some portions of my family tree came from France directly to La in the early 1700s, then others in the 1800s while France was still an empire. I have their original passports to come to Nouvelle Orleans 
. But all along the way there's bits and pieces of other immigrants from Scotland, Ireland, and Germany.
You'd almost have to mathematically calculate a percentage to get an accurate figure and that's assuming you get everything you need.
. But all along the way there's bits and pieces of other immigrants from Scotland, Ireland, and Germany. You'd almost have to mathematically calculate a percentage to get an accurate figure and that's assuming you get everything you need.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:47 pm to ccomeaux
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Unless you've done DNA testing, you don't know you're true ancestry. People know what they've been told and that's highly unreliable.
This is more true than people want to admit. Mrs P did 23 and me recently and all the bullshite her grandparents told her was off by a significant margin.
I had to come up with a whole new arsenal of racial slurs for her the next fight we had.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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But my guess is that while German ancestry is significant, I don't think they actually outnumber those of English ancestry.
Isn't Germany/Germanic/Saxon the original "pot"...I mean, didn't the English and Germans mix their shite up a long time ago. I read that part of the English monarchy is of German origin (House of Hanover). Sounds like there is so much mixing with these two, does it really make a difference. I'm white, you white, we all white den.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:48 pm to LucasP
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It is hard to say for sure because we are so many generations removed from those original ancestors.
So kind of exactly what I said? Cool.
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Not really. The percents get lower and lower each generation. I am about 45 percent english going back to the 1500s. But so many other cultures have mixed I dont consider myself english
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:49 pm to Master of Sinanju
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Most of the people filling out the forms don't know the difference between England and Germany.
True. I used to know a black guy with the last name McCoy that was darker than Tobie's arse. He swore up and down he was Irish.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:51 pm to REB BEER
Whenever I meet a black person with the same last name as me I wonder if my family owned theirs
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I bet most people are European mutts.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:54 pm to BIGFOOD
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I read that part of the English monarchy is of German origin (House of Hanover).
It's actually pretty interesting checking out the way Euro Royal houses mixed and yet were still inbreeding. Cousins marrying and bearing kids for only political reasons, treaties by marriage to each other.
Spain, France, Germany, Hungary, Austria....all of essentially one bloodline. Maximilian of Mexico was Maximilian Von Hapsburg of Austria. Google it up and then start clicking the relatives/spouses linked. Talk about a tangled web!
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:55 pm to LucasP
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
All of this just makes me appreciate the sheer amount of fricking that has to go on to result in our existence.
We are an unbroken chain of orgasms, and rape... lots and lots of rape.
We are an unbroken chain of orgasms, and rape... lots and lots of rape.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm half German.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
German heritage is under-counted as well, probably not as much.
Most Germans settled in the midwest/PA, and Texas to a lesser extent. Many of whom anglicized their names during the big wars.
Most Germans settled in the midwest/PA, and Texas to a lesser extent. Many of whom anglicized their names during the big wars.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:59 pm to ksayetiger
I get what you are saying, but when you are talking about a country that is mostly populated by people who took part in a mass colonization that took place over a relatively short amount of time then country of origin means something. Maybe this is a sign that the country is starting to get old enough to where some of this is losing its meaning.
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:05 pm to tigerbutt
I'd like to know which country my dad's line came from, can only trace it back to Pennsylvania. From interacting with some Europeans, they suspect German to Dutch and some thought Scottish.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'd say it was pretty significant. Before WWI there were 100 plus German language newspapers in this country.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:14 pm to crazy4lsu
Shem, Ham, Japheth. Pick one.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
English ancestry is the vanilla in the American melting pot. Someone whose ancestry is 75% English and 25% Italian (for example) is going to emphasize his Italian heritage. Thus English ancestry is extremely under-reported.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:17 pm to TejasHorn
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Most Germans settled in the midwest/PA, and Texas to a lesser extent. Many of whom anglicized their names during the big wars.
A lot in Louisiana coonasscized theirs. Breaux for example.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
No, German people absolutely do not outnumber English people.
The entire country was basically English for the first hundred years. They didn't all disappear. They had kids with the new immigrants. Germans, Scandinavians, and whomever else, and now those descendants consider themselves to be "German", "Swedish", etc. even though if they took a DNA test they would quite clearly be more English than whatever the hell their closest immigrant ancestor is!
I wish more people would take DNA tests and put this dumb bull shite to rest. I have traced MANY of my ancestors and it is AMAZING how many come from England. If your ancestors have been here since the Civil War, you're probably 80% likely to be majority English. (I completely made that statistic up but I sincerely believe it.)
The entire country was basically English for the first hundred years. They didn't all disappear. They had kids with the new immigrants. Germans, Scandinavians, and whomever else, and now those descendants consider themselves to be "German", "Swedish", etc. even though if they took a DNA test they would quite clearly be more English than whatever the hell their closest immigrant ancestor is!
I wish more people would take DNA tests and put this dumb bull shite to rest. I have traced MANY of my ancestors and it is AMAZING how many come from England. If your ancestors have been here since the Civil War, you're probably 80% likely to be majority English. (I completely made that statistic up but I sincerely believe it.)
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