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Are there really more Americans of German ancestry than English ancestry?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:37 pm
According to the U.S. census, the answer is clearly yes. But my guess is that while German ancestry is significant, I don't think they actually outnumber those of English ancestry.
In colonial America, about 60% were of English ancestry and less than 10% were German. The 1980 census said English and German ancestry were both about 50 million, but while German has remained pretty stable the number reporting English ancestry was only 25 million. This is obviously a significant undercount.
I suspect the vast majority of those declaring American ancestry are of British ancestry (mostly English with some Scottish and Scots-Irish), given that they're mostly white Southerners. Also, nonresponses to the ancestry question tend to be high in the same places where "American" ancestry is high.
In colonial America, about 60% were of English ancestry and less than 10% were German. The 1980 census said English and German ancestry were both about 50 million, but while German has remained pretty stable the number reporting English ancestry was only 25 million. This is obviously a significant undercount.
I suspect the vast majority of those declaring American ancestry are of British ancestry (mostly English with some Scottish and Scots-Irish), given that they're mostly white Southerners. Also, nonresponses to the ancestry question tend to be high in the same places where "American" ancestry is high.
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Hmmm, official US Census or HailHailMichigan's gut feeling?....
Im going with the US Census I guess.
Im going with the US Census I guess.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Most people haven't traced their entire family tree (mother and father) back to original immigrants. I doubt it's possible to get an accurate answer.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why would the U.S. census lie about this? Just bc they knew you'd start this thread?
I'm German, FWIW.
I'm German, FWIW.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
French, german, irish, and Comanche.
We've been known to get a little rowdy
We've been known to get a little rowdy
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
All those filthy Europeans intermingled to the point that none of them are pure anything. Just a bunch of mutts, with some Irish thrown in for good measure.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Most of the people filling out the forms don't know the difference between England and Germany.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
few people are exclusive to one group, like in almost no one.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This thread seems racist. I'm gonna RA just to be safe.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It is hard to say for sure because we are so many generations removed from those original ancestors. I'm from both. My mother's family descended from English and Irish while my father's side is German, Dutch, and Swede. I reckon a lot of other people descend from both, too.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:42 pm to NYNolaguy1
between all the co-mingling of western Europeans in America and Anglicizing of names there is no way to know. Most "Americans" as answered in the survey, as well as most Northern European-descended Americans in general probably have both German and English ancestry in there
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Germany has a ton more people as well, so that naturally will lead to more.
And TONS migrated before, during, and after the World Wars.
And TONS migrated before, during, and after the World Wars.
quote:
Between 1931 and 1940, 114,000 Germans moved to the United States
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Mutt checking in... (Irish, German, English and whatever else)
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:43 pm to saint tiger225
quote:What are you even talking about? Nobody is lying. There are states in the upper south where "american" is the most common reported ancestry group. We know that is baloney.
Why would the U.S. census lie about this?
People in kentucky, WV, Tennessee, western carolinas, etc had family here in the earliest of the early days, but they much more likely came from england than from germany. But we can never know because they put they are "american" on the heritage page on census report.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You vastly underestimate the irish population as well.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:44 pm to TheFonz
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It is hard to say for sure because we are so many generations removed from those original ancestors.
So kind of exactly what I said? Cool.
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Irish while my father's side is German,
Unoriginal mick kraut.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Die Bücher sind auf dem Tisch.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Unless you've done DNA testing, you don't know you're true ancestry. People know what they've been told and that's highly unreliable.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
According to the online records (including copy of the original Last Will and Testament) my paternal lineage arrived in North America about 1640 in MD from England. However, the family traces back to Augustus Caesar. So am I of Italian descent or English or just European in general?
My Maternal lineage is German/Irish mix.
Guess that makes me a Euro-American in hyphenated America.
ETA: My family name is one of the most researched in the English speaking world with some of the most extensive documentary research available.
My Maternal lineage is German/Irish mix.
Guess that makes me a Euro-American in hyphenated America.
ETA: My family name is one of the most researched in the English speaking world with some of the most extensive documentary research available.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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People in kentucky, WV, Tennessee, western carolinas, etc had family here in the earliest of the early days, but they much more likely came from england than from germany. But we can never know because they put they are "american" on the heritage page on census report.
What a dumb rational. They arent german either. People from germany vame from somewhere else. Might as well say we are all middle eastern since we all originate there
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