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Would it better to have Sheldon Rankings applying a push from the outside/inside
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:54 pm
I think it would be best to have Sheldon Rankings rushing from the outside similar to former pro bowler John Randle. I think he has the speed and power to be that kind of player and allow Fairly/Jenkins to handle the interior duties of that defensive line. If you were defensive line coach how would best use your two new defensive tackles?
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:04 pm to Bengaltyger4life
I think he will be used at both DT and DE
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:06 pm to Bengaltyger4life
he's probably too short to be a major threat outside consistently
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:12 pm to Bengaltyger4life
It'd be best for him to trim down and play outside
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:18 pm to Bengaltyger4life
DT, inside. /thread
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:23 pm to Bengaltyger4life
In a standard four man front I think he will stay inside.
On obvious passing downs and 3rd downs he may be the third d-lineman on the outside
On obvious passing downs and 3rd downs he may be the third d-lineman on the outside
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:24 pm to Bengaltyger4life
He will be more productive from the interior. 3 tech/b gap is his best spot. I don't see him being highly productive against NFL tackles. Watch the Auburn game.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:29 pm to Bengaltyger4life
We do need a better nt/5tech though.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:32 pm to Bengaltyger4life
CSP said he is an inside rusher
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:38 pm to oncealurker
Yup inside 3 tech. Suits his skill set and we had almost no inside push last year.
Maybe on occasion you throw him at end in big sets or obvious passing downs but his primary role is 3 tech.
Maybe on occasion you throw him at end in big sets or obvious passing downs but his primary role is 3 tech.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:08 pm to bonethug0108
You and I are really cleaning up the trash on this board the past few days. 
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:47 pm to NOFOX
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He will be more productive from the interior. 3 tech/b gap is his best spot. I don't see him being highly productive against NFL tackles. Watch the Auburn game.
This leads me to ask this question: Why wasn't he used as a nose at Louisville? We all have this idea that Rankins will be a powerful force on the interior, yet Louisville wasn't confident in his ability to blow up the interior. Louisville had him at DE where he rarely beat the tackle with pass rush moves. In run defense, he had difficulties shedding blocks against tackles because of how short his reach is. Why do we have this idea that he will suddenly be a great 3 technique?
Not many people had Rankins high on their boards until the Senior Bowl and that worries me. Rankins has some really nice agility and power but he isn't Aaron Donald athletic and he isn't as powerful as other DTs that were still on the board.
The player that I see everyone describe Rankin as is who I see in Sheldon Day. Day is a better version of Rankins in my eyes. Day played all over the field for Notre Dame. He stood up, played DE, played DT, played NT, and he dominated at those positions. I don't see the same position flexibility with Rankins and I don't see him as an interior rusher due to his lack of pass rushing moves and his lack of length.
I think the Kentucky game from 2015 is a really good insight into who Rankins is.
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Compare that film to what Sheldon Day did against Clemson in 2015:
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Or Texas 2015:
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This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:57 pm to rmnldr
"Hi. I watched two games and now think I'm an expert on this player. I have no idea what I'm watching though, and exaggerate the very few negative things I see to fit my narrative.
I also have no clue that he was actually moved all around the line, even in the two videos that I posted. But that's okay because I'm clueless.
I also think I know more than professional scouts and coaches because I watched two whole games on this player and that makes me an expert."
I also have no clue that he was actually moved all around the line, even in the two videos that I posted. But that's okay because I'm clueless.
I also think I know more than professional scouts and coaches because I watched two whole games on this player and that makes me an expert."
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:58 pm to rmnldr
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question: Why wasn't he used as a nose at Louisville?
He was.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:59 pm to Fun Bunch
Also interior. Moving the QB off his spot and out the pocket is key in this league.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:59 pm to Fun Bunch
He was used as a nose, 3 tech, and end in both 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. You can see him in most of these spots in the two videos he keeps posting.
Also he is confusing 3 tech with nose. We plan on using him as a 3 tech.
Also he is confusing 3 tech with nose. We plan on using him as a 3 tech.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:05 pm to bonethug0108
Yeah I know. His versatility is one of his strongest suits.
He'll play 3 for us, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him at 0 and 5 in certain spots
He'll play 3 for us, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him at 0 and 5 in certain spots
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:06 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
"Hi. I watched two games and now think I'm an expert on this player. I have no idea what I'm watching though, and exaggerate the very few negative things I see to fit my narrative. I also have no clue that he was actually moved all around the line, even in the two videos that I posted. But that's okay because I'm clueless. I also think I know more than professional scouts and coaches because I watched two whole games on this player and that makes me an expert."
How about you stop being a jackass and actually counter my points and have a real discussion? I haven't said anything nasty to you but the only defense you have against my points is name-calling.
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He was used as a nose, 3 tech, and end in both 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. You can see him in most of these spots in the two videos he keeps posting. Also he is confusing 3 tech with nose. We plan on using him as a 3 tech.
I don't think I saw Rankins at nose once. 1 tech and 3 tech are both interior players though and Rankins typically lines up over the tackle as a 2 gapper. It leaves me wondering why he wasn't used at nose if he's some great interior pass rusher.
And to clarify even further, Louisville runs a 3-4 scheme where their nose lines up at 0 tech and 2 tech over the guard sometimes.
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Yeah I know. His versatility is one of his strongest suits. He'll play 3 for us, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him at 0 and 5 in certain spots
I don't see versatility with Rankins. I think he gets sucked into blocks against guards and tackles in one-on-one situations on pass and runs plays. He isn't a great edge rusher and he isn't a great interior rusher. I just don't see it on film.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:13 pm to rmnldr
I've countered your points several times with your whole two videos that you somehow think he played poorly in.
And where did I call you any names?
You spout this same narrative but provide no evidence for your thoughts or my or others' counterpoints.
Edit:
Furthermore you watched two videos and think you know their scheme, but it's been said (and you can watch other games) that they run multiple fronts and both one and two gap (which can be seen in the videos you posted, though these were games where they were containing the qb more and ran more two gap).
They actually ran more one gap over the course of the year and Rankins played inside a lot more in other games.
It's like you purposely found the two games where they played two gap with him more at end to try to prove some false point, which the videos still don't prove.
And where did I call you any names?
You spout this same narrative but provide no evidence for your thoughts or my or others' counterpoints.
Edit:
Furthermore you watched two videos and think you know their scheme, but it's been said (and you can watch other games) that they run multiple fronts and both one and two gap (which can be seen in the videos you posted, though these were games where they were containing the qb more and ran more two gap).
They actually ran more one gap over the course of the year and Rankins played inside a lot more in other games.
It's like you purposely found the two games where they played two gap with him more at end to try to prove some false point, which the videos still don't prove.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:15 pm to rmnldr
Literally everyone else thinks he's extremely versatile.
He played zero a lot at Louisville. A lot.
In a 3-3-5 on 3rd and 9 I can see a lineup of
Fairley Rankins Cam
Kikaha Robertson Tull
Breaux Byrd Vaccaro Bell Lewis
With NF and SR running stunts
He played zero a lot at Louisville. A lot.
In a 3-3-5 on 3rd and 9 I can see a lineup of
Fairley Rankins Cam
Kikaha Robertson Tull
Breaux Byrd Vaccaro Bell Lewis
With NF and SR running stunts
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