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re: Saints expected to find new DC as rift between Ryan and Payton widens
Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:53 am to whoknows1390
Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:53 am to whoknows1390
Always a couple plays away
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:55 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Yea, its not like the Saints haven't tried to bring in players. They've been cash strapped for years and brought in some really good players. Hard to forsee an All pro in Byrd just crash and burn like that.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:58 am to JeffG20
What needs to happen is the saints need to hire a coordinator who is actually a good coach instead of a good motivator. Williams and Ryan are both good for getting the most out of people for a limited amount of time, then crashing and burning once the emotions run out. Same with Rex Ryan
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 10:59 am
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:00 am to The Sad Banana
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I think Lofton is better than Vilma was.
Lofton is a better at stopping the run, but when it comes to covering in the slot Vilma is much better. At least he was in his prime.
Also, don't hate me for saying this but would Mike Smith be a good option for us? If I recall, when he was DC at Jax they had a pretty good defense in most of his years there.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:01 am to Sleazy E
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Maybe if Payton's stupid arse gave Ryan something to work with we wouldn't have this problem. Payton shouldn't have any issue with the way the defense is playing
basically the same players from last year that were a top 5 Defense. WTF are you talking about
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:01 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Marvin Lewis *Crosses fingers
I don't know, at this point its pretty discouraging going through coach after coach. Maybe a college guy might be the way to go.
I don't know, at this point its pretty discouraging going through coach after coach. Maybe a college guy might be the way to go.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:03 am to KindaRaw
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Lofton is a better at stopping the run, but when it comes to covering in the slot Vilma is much better. At least he was in his prime. Also, don't hate me for saying this but would Mike Smith be a good option for us? If I recall, when he was DC at Jax they had a pretty good defense in most of his years there.
I'm not sure. A Defensive coach that has a pretty bad defense on a yearly bases scares me lol
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:04 am to JeffG20
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m not sure. A Defensive coach that has a pretty bad defense on a yearly bases scares me lol
Very true. Although, I thought Atl had 1 good defensive year when they went 13-3?
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:05 am to KindaRaw
Yea, Maybe he's just not head coach material. If he's just focused on that side of the ball then maybe. I'm open for all suggestions at this point.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:10 am to JeffG20
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I'm not sure. A Defensive coach that has a pretty bad defense on a yearly bases scares me lol
Well Gregg Williams was a pretty bad head coach that is a good defensive coordinator
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:12 am to KindaRaw
Mike Smith is a defensive-minded coach?
You'd never know.
You'd never know.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:13 am to josh336
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Gregg Williams
quote:Don't you think this is a bit of a stretch? All the guy does is fricken blitz...
a good defensive coordinator
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:13 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
All signs point to Dennis Allen. But if like us to look at Mike Nolan. Doubt anyone from Atlanta survives this season. I'm also not sure if Perry Fewell survives in NY.
Also... Bobby April for special teams coach.
Also also... Kromer back for OL coach or Tony Sparano maybe.
Also... Bobby April for special teams coach.
Also also... Kromer back for OL coach or Tony Sparano maybe.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:13 am to josh336
and Williams would prob still be our DC if he wasnt a douche
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:18 am to Lester Earl
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basically the same players from last year that were a top 5 Defense.
Top five defense and added an all pro in one of the weakest areas from last year.
The only thing i can come up with is chemistry. i think KV said they're are no vocal leaders in the locker room. that is a damn shame.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:19 am to oncealurker
As long as our coach and GM dont take the draft seriously and ignore depth and positions of need in free agency, no DC will help us.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:22 am to whoknows1390
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Top five defense and added an all pro in one of the weakest areas from last year.
The only thing i can come up with is chemistry. i think KV said they're are no vocal leaders in the locker room. that is a damn shame.
The absence of Cam Jordan from a performance standpoint has really impacted the entire defense this season
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:22 am to oncealurker
Muschamp FTW
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:23 am to REG861
What examples do you have of them not taking the draft seriously? We've drafted tons of defensive players.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:24 am to josh336
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What examples do you have of them not taking the draft seriously? We've drafted tons of defensive players.
https://www.neworleanssaints.com/team/roster/stanley-jean-baptiste/c0aa4d64-d5b0-40a2-80ac-34726f52c9ba/
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